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December 3, 2009 Telecon

1-3 pm EST
Phone: Meeting Number: 877-326-0011
Meeting Code: *7884944*
GoTo Meeting Link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/203214995

Topics

(feel free to add agenda items)
1. Recap of Last Meeting
2. GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3 (AIP-3), George Percivall http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=36656
3. Water Cluster Activities at Winter ESIP Federation meeting
4. Discussion Draft Water Cluster Vision Statement
5. Date of Next Meeting (January 5-7, 2010)

Meeting Docs

Participants

George Percivall
Bill Sonntag
Carol Meyer
Brand Niemann
Christine Eggers
Luis Bermudez
Rob Raskin
Todd Dabolt
Brian Rogan
Gary Foley
Rob Fatland
Jami Montgomery
Phil Yang
Will Pozzi

Notes

1. Round robin introductions were made
2. Last Meeting Recap

Winter meeting activities and session breakdown
Need a couple of use cases by end of meeting for proof of concept (EPA, others?)
Need identify someone to lead ontology management
Outreach: Ontology meeting during AGU; NIDIS/NOAA; NASA
Vision statement

3. George Percivall, OGC - GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3

Looking for a Drought scenario
AIP Task - pilot new processes in support of creating the GEOSS Common Infrastructure (GCI)
work collaboratively across GEO committees (e.g. UIC to get user needs)
AIP 2 Achievements

Community of Practice Scenarios
Reusable Processes
SBAs covered: Disaster Management, Air Quality & Health, Energy, Biodiversity and Climate Change

AIP 3 (call to be issued in January 2010)

Build on GCI Community Services
Engage new Communities of Practice
Focus on Data; Promote Content
Results in time to support EO Summit (Nov. 2010, Beijing)

Use Cases (SOA)
Scenarios (end users)
Drought Scenario

Asian Water Cycle, SDSC, FCU, CUASHI, JAXA, EuroGEOSS, ESIP, GEO Water CoP
Hydrology Interoperability Experiment (OGC activity) - standards development/refinement as opposed to the GEOSS AIP which seeks to apply interoperability arrangements to SBAs
Candidate Scenario was previously developed under AIP2 but didn't have critical mass to move forward
Other scenario suggestion: visual beach (environmental indicator)

How to Get Involved

No funding provided
Help with scenario development
Semantic mediation use case

Action Items:

Link to NIDIS for scenario
Poll Cluster members about Drought or Water Quality scenario
All - Review and edit Draft vision statemente for Water Cluster

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-==May 6 2010 Telecon==
+==December 3, 2009 Telecon==
-pm EST <br>
+-3 pm EST <br>
 Phone: Meeting Number:  877-326-0011<br>
 Meeting Code:  *7884944*<br>
+GoTo Meeting Link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/203214995
 ===Topics===
+(feel free to add agenda items) <br>
-*Introduction of Participants
+. Recap of Last Meeting <br>
-*Review of last call
+. GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3 (AIP-3), George Percivall   http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=36656 <br>
-*AIP-3 Gulf of Maine use case discussion
+. [[Water Cluster Activities]] at Winter ESIP Federation meeting <br>
-*Preparation for Summer Meeting
+. Discussion Draft [[Vision Statement for Water Cluster |Water Cluster Vision Statement]] <br>
-*Other topics raised by participants
+. Date of Next Meeting (January 5-7, 2010)
-*Adjournment
 ===Meeting Docs===
+===Participants===
+:*George Percivall
+:*Bill Sonntag
+:*Carol Meyer
+:*Brand Niemann
+:*Christine Eggers
+:*Luis Bermudez
+:*Rob Raskin
+:*Todd Dabolt
+:*Brian Rogan
+:*Gary Foley
+:*Rob Fatland
+:*Jami Montgomery
+:*Phil Yang
+:*Will Pozzi
 ===Notes===
+. Round robin introductions were made <br>
+. Last Meeting Recap
+:*Winter meeting activities and session breakdown
+:*Need a couple of use cases by end of meeting for proof of concept (EPA, others?)
+:*Need identify someone to lead ontology management
+:*Outreach: Ontology meeting during AGU; NIDIS/NOAA; NASA
+:*Vision statement
+. George Percivall, OGC - GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3
+:*Looking for a Drought scenario
+:*AIP Task - pilot new processes in support of creating the GEOSS Common Infrastructure (GCI)
+:*work collaboratively across GEO committees (e.g. UIC to get user needs)
+:*AIP 2 Achievements
+::*Community of Practice Scenarios
+::*Reusable Processes
+::*
+::*SBAs covered: Disaster Management, Air Quality & Health, Energy, Biodiversity and Climate Change
+:*AIP 3 (call to be issued in January 2010)
+::*Build on GCI Community Services
+::*Engage new Communities of Practice
+::*Focus on Data; Promote Content
+::*Results in time to support EO Summit (Nov. 2010, Beijing)
+:*Use Cases (SOA)
+:*Scenarios (end users)
+:*Drought Scenario
+::*Asian Water Cycle, SDSC, FCU, CUASHI, JAXA, EuroGEOSS, ESIP, GEO Water CoP
+::*Hydrology Interoperability Experiment (OGC activity) - standards development/refinement as opposed to the GEOSS AIP which seeks to apply interoperability arrangements to SBAs
+::*Candidate Scenario was previously developed under AIP2 but didn't have critical mass to move forward
+::*Other scenario suggestion: visual beach (environmental indicator)
+:*How to Get Involved
+::*No funding provided
+::*Help with scenario development
+::*Semantic mediation use case
-===Water Cluster Telecon – May 6, 2010===
-'''Present:'''
-*Bill Sonntag
-*Brian Rogan
-*Louis Sweeny
-*Bruce Bargemeyer
-*Tim Gleason  - EPA Region I
-*Tom Shyka -  Gulf of Maine Research Center
-*Will Pozzi
-*Chuck Spooner
-'''Introduction of Participants'''
-New Participants introduced themselves.  Chuck Spooner introduced Tim Gleason and the reasoning behind his invitation to Tim to participate in the call.
-'''Review of last call'''
-Identified a use case that could be used for a tangible construct.
-AIP-3 Gulf of Maine use case discussion
-Bill is looking for reaction to the document that he circulated by email.  Text Follows:
- Improving Access To Meteorological and Discharge Data
- Business Need:
- Managers have need to integrate weather data and water quality data to better understand meteorological relationships to water quality; Managers need site-specific meteorological information (rainfall) to improve decision making around closing/opening of shellfish beds and beach advisories; Shellfish monitoring programs could be improved by having access to more river/stream discharge/flow data; Managers need more timely rainfall data (last hour to last 24 hours) for beach monitoring programs.
- Strengths:
-  USGS Is working on tool that allows users to access weather data
-  within an area of interest
-  Could develop rating curves - not as expensive as maintaining stream
-  gauges;
-  Could use NextRAD radar output to extract real time rainfall data
-  from specific location
-  Could involve multiple partners who would use/provide data - MWRA, DH
-  DES (beach) NWS modeling/forecasts;
-  Leverage EPA's Virtual Beach Model, by potentially using EPA Exchange
-  Network to access data needed to run model.
- Concerns:
-Currently don't have historical data for analysis;
-  Monitoring limited/date and time not based on rainfall.
- Additional Comments:
- Beach monitoring programs need real time data to make predictive
-  advisories (last hour to 24 hours)
-  Beach monitoring programs need more consistent rainfall data to do
-  analysis to see if predictive advisories can be done with rainfall,
-  or if other parameters are involved
-  Integrate periodic episodic storm events
-  Discrete models/elasticity for variables is critical (drought before
-  rainfall)
-  Example: Integrate weather data with FOCB data - look at changes to
-  WQ parameters with time - geospatially. Valuable for volunteers,
-  analysis. Data has discrete dates, look at rainfall 24 hours before
-  sampling, sunny, etc. Not full weather dataset - 24/48 summaries
-  around sample times/locations. Might explain some of the variation -
-  improve ability to explain deviations.
- Tim gave a description of the work they are doing in Region I.  Their work is being approached by the user end rather than the data end.
-There are a number of questions involving this work and engaging users.   EPA is unaware of where NOAA is regarding regional downscaling.  It might be useful to bring in some NOAA people to the summer meeting who could address these concerns and understand their work efforts.
-Bill talked with Luis Bermudez about organizing efforts in Knoxville to develop scenarios for three types of users.  It needs to be come at it from the data side, science side and citizen side; a three user type engagement using semantic technologies.
-.	need to identify the data sources
-.	 determine their current configuration and how they could be use in semantic tools
-.	 how they can reside in a semantic inventory
-.	What type of tool can be used to display them?
-.	Need to see if we can use some of the quickly maturing semantic techniques to integrate the data in ways that would be most useful to a number of different users.
-Bill spent time with Tim Hendler at RPI.  They are using some fast paced demos that illustrate how quickly some of this work can be done.  It was clear as to what was needed to get at the data and to find the right tools and it is doable over the next two and a half months.
-Bruce noted that are a number of ideas that Luis put forward.   He noticed that a lot of this is being done at Hydroseek and CUASHI.   This has been put into Excel but not into OWL at this point.  It has been done with physical chemistry and less so in other areas.   He also talked with David Valentine but it has not been turned into an ontology at this point.   They are putting them into SCOS format.
-He also talked with SCISCOPE personnel as well.   The SCISCOPE tool is set up for discovery and the ontology is embedded in it.
-Will Pozzi discussed other efforts that he is aware of and noted that there are a lot of efforts underway internationally, particularly in Australia.
-Louis noted that if we have practical ontologies attached to coastal management, we could have much better data management.  He asked if any of these ontologies are veering into the administrative/programmatic domain?   i.e. monitoring, permitting, etc. activities.
-The value of ontologies is to make it more user friendly.
-It might be worth thinking about getting the data out in an RDF consumable format.  Start to use it and grab ontology formats that already exist that will work for whatever is being examined.   Apply those into display tools that provide an interface to the decision maker on whatever particular question or interest they might have.   Perhaps the data sources are more important to the questions being asked and answer the questions using a display and integration tool.
-This process would work best for OEI and would benefit their current holdings.
-It doesn’t need to be perfect to make it work.  It may be that people will need to work on pieces and then see how the whole works.  It isn’t clear how much can be done before the summer meeting.
-Action
-.	Need to look at the paper that was sent around and determine what is needed.
-.	  We need to look through the existing use case, see what data is available for it and determine what shape it is in
-.	 can they be converted to a compatible format and made available to a limited experiment.
-.	  Construct an ontology from the datasets we want to use, rather than import an ontology into this work.
-There is still a need to determine what will be accomplished at the Knoxville meeting.
-'''Preparation for Summer Meeting'''
-The schedule still needs to be determined.
-'''Other topics raised by participants'''
-The next call will be the first Thursday in June, June 3 at 3 PM
-'''Adjournment'''
-Meeting ended at 3:58 PM
+Action Items:
+:*Link to NIDIS for scenario
+:*Poll Cluster members about Drought or Water Quality scenario
+:*All - Review and edit Draft vision statemente for Water Cluster
 ===Action Items===
 ==[[Previous Telecons]]==