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December 3, 2009 Telecon

1-3 pm EST
Phone: Meeting Number: 877-326-0011
Meeting Code: *7884944*
GoTo Meeting Link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/203214995

Topics

(feel free to add agenda items)
1. Recap of Last Meeting
2. GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3 (AIP-3), George Percivall http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=36656
3. Water Cluster Activities at Winter ESIP Federation meeting
4. Discussion Draft Water Cluster Vision Statement
5. Date of Next Meeting (January 5-7, 2010)

Meeting Docs

Participants

George Percivall
Bill Sonntag
Carol Meyer
Brand Niemann
Christine Eggers
Luis Bermudez
Rob Raskin
Todd Dabolt
Brian Rogan
Gary Foley
Rob Fatland
Jami Montgomery
Phil Yang
Will Pozzi

Notes

1. Round robin introductions were made
2. Last Meeting Recap

Winter meeting activities and session breakdown
Need a couple of use cases by end of meeting for proof of concept (EPA, others?)
Need identify someone to lead ontology management
Outreach: Ontology meeting during AGU; NIDIS/NOAA; NASA
Vision statement

3. George Percivall, OGC - GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3

Looking for a Drought scenario
AIP Task - pilot new processes in support of creating the GEOSS Common Infrastructure (GCI)
work collaboratively across GEO committees (e.g. UIC to get user needs)
AIP 2 Achievements

Community of Practice Scenarios
Reusable Processes
SBAs covered: Disaster Management, Air Quality & Health, Energy, Biodiversity and Climate Change

AIP 3 (call to be issued in January 2010)

Build on GCI Community Services
Engage new Communities of Practice
Focus on Data; Promote Content
Results in time to support EO Summit (Nov. 2010, Beijing)

Use Cases (SOA)
Scenarios (end users)
Drought Scenario

Asian Water Cycle, SDSC, FCU, CUASHI, JAXA, EuroGEOSS, ESIP, GEO Water CoP
Hydrology Interoperability Experiment (OGC activity) - standards development/refinement as opposed to the GEOSS AIP which seeks to apply interoperability arrangements to SBAs
Candidate Scenario was previously developed under AIP2 but didn't have critical mass to move forward
Other scenario suggestion: visual beach (environmental indicator)

How to Get Involved

No funding provided
Help with scenario development
Semantic mediation use case

Action Items:

Link to NIDIS for scenario
Poll Cluster members about Drought or Water Quality scenario
All - Review and edit Draft vision statemente for Water Cluster

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-==November 5, 2009 Telecon==
+==December 3, 2009 Telecon==
 -3 pm EST <br>
 Phone: Meeting Number:  877-326-0011<br>
 Meeting Code:  *7884944*<br>
-GoTo Meeting Link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/975746403
+GoTo Meeting Link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/203214995
 ===Topics===
 (feel free to add agenda items) <br>
 . Recap of Last Meeting <br>
-. Update on Small Group Call <br>
+. GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3 (AIP-3), George Percivall   http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=36656 <br>
-. Crafting Mission/Objective Statement for Group <br>
+. [[Water Cluster Activities]] at Winter ESIP Federation meeting <br>
-. Proof of Concept Components <br>
+. Discussion Draft [[Vision Statement for Water Cluster |Water Cluster Vision Statement]] <br>
-::Ontology basis
+. Date of Next Meeting (January 5-7, 2010)
-::Registries Utility
-::Display Integration and Analysis Tool
-::Use Case - Location &/or Research or Policy Question
-. Organization of ESIP Winter Meeting Activities <br>
-. Date of Next Call - December 3rd <br>
 ===Meeting Docs===
-===Water Cluster Telecon minutes – November 5, 2009===
-[[Water_Cluster_Telecon_11-05-09.doc‎]]
 ===Participants===
-:*Chuck Spooner
+:*George Percivall
-:*Bill Sontag
+:*Bill Sonntag
-:*Ed Washburn
 :*Carol Meyer
-:*Jim Etro
+:*Brand Niemann
+:*Christine Eggers
+:*Luis Bermudez
+:*Rob Raskin
+:*Todd Dabolt
 :*Brian Rogan
+:*Gary Foley
+:*Rob Fatland
 :*Jami Montgomery
-:*Rob Raskin
+:*Phil Yang
-:* Phil Yang
-:*Luiz Bermudez
 :*Will Pozzi
-:*Manteria Pongsiri
-:* Mike Brewer
 ===Notes===
-Recap of the past meeting.
+. Round robin introductions were made <br>
+. Last Meeting Recap
+:*Winter meeting activities and session breakdown
-A discussion of the ontology basis
+:*Need a couple of use cases by end of meeting for proof of concept (EPA, others?)
+:*Need identify someone to lead ontology management
-Rick Hooper was planning on getting the ontology in good enough shape to update our registry.   Then try to expose this to a user group.  It won’t be quite ready for the January meeting but will be good enough to show it to a user group.
+:*Outreach: Ontology meeting during AGU; NIDIS/NOAA; NASA
+:*Vision statement
-Luiz  summary of the state of ontologies:
+. George Percivall, OGC - GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot 3
-“ There are a number of groups trying to do this but there are no definitive answers.  There are some pieces missing that still need to be included.   We have the pieces but we need to know what are the next steps.  Are we going to use Hydroseek?  What are we trying to show?  What ontologies are you going to use to map the interfaces? “
+:*Looking for a Drought scenario
+:*AIP Task - pilot new processes in support of creating the GEOSS Common Infrastructure (GCI)
-He will be talking with his working group to see how this will work.
+:*work collaboratively across GEO committees (e.g. UIC to get user needs)
+:*AIP 2 Achievements
-There was a discussion on whether the group should also work on developing a water portal for this cluster?
+::*Community of Practice Scenarios
+::*Reusable Processes
-Registry services – for international and reuse purposes, the largest extent of standards deployment is for international marine assessment for climate issues.
+::*
+::*SBAs covered: Disaster Management, Air Quality & Health, Energy, Biodiversity and Climate Change
-There was a general discussion of what is Hydroseek going to look like?
+:*AIP 3 (call to be issued in January 2010)
+::*Build on GCI Community Services
-This is not a fine tuned issue yet.  For the purposes of demonstration, we are going to try things this way with a lot of disclaimers, with changes to come from users.
+::*Engage new Communities of Practice
+::*Focus on Data; Promote Content
-The discussion was about various browsers that would work with Hydroseek and other catalogs.
+::*Results in time to support EO Summit (Nov. 2010, Beijing)
+:*Use Cases (SOA)
-The topic needs further exploration.  There are a lot of ideas and it would be good for us to work towards one tool.  Both Hydroseek and SciScope have good points but they need to be flexible enough and to be open sourced.
+:*Scenarios (end users)
+:*Drought Scenario
-Is the need to deploy this into a client actually the second stage and the need to operate should be first?   It seems as if this is a difficult question to answer since you have to know how well it works first.
+::*Asian Water Cycle, SDSC, FCU, CUASHI, JAXA, EuroGEOSS, ESIP, GEO Water CoP
+::*Hydrology Interoperability Experiment (OGC activity) - standards development/refinement as opposed to the GEOSS AIP which seeks to apply interoperability arrangements to SBAs
-Will Pozzi raised the issue of a finding a way to use this methodology for information searching.  May we have to expand the ontology to cover droughts.   There is a lot of work needed to be done in the drought sector.    This could be an import case study to look at the client.
+::*Candidate Scenario was previously developed under AIP2 but didn't have critical mass to move forward
+::*Other scenario suggestion: visual beach (environmental indicator)
-Rick Hooper presented the CUASHI hierarchal ontology.   They have been using the groups that EPA/USGS has come up with.   It’s a viewer than can be used by anyone. The URL is on the wiki in the water cluster.
+:*How to Get Involved
+::*No funding provided
-Chuck Spooner felt that an operational model is needed
+::*Help with scenario development
+::*Semantic mediation use case
-Winter Meeting Discussion
-Carol began the conversation about the winter meeting.
-There needs to be time to get people up to speed on what the cluster is all about and how an ESIP meeting works.   A “this is our starting point” is important.
-It’s important to discuss the ontologies with the general community.  People who are participating in this series of telecons will step on to lead discussions and other activities with new participants.
-Some of the follow-up meetings with CUASHI and Microsoft will help to facilitate what will occur at the meeting.   Some of what will happen at the meeting is still up in the air.
-Is there something we can point to, to frame the conversation?   Context is an important part of the conversation.   This would make perfect sense if we had a defined software product but we aren’t there yet.  At the moment we have different groups doing different things.  It is the nature of the community.
-In terms of the winter meeting, we do want to present what we are working on in the context of user cases.  This is a tool you can actually use.  The desktop client is getting all of our attention right.   How we introduce this to a non-technical group needs to be done in the context of what can it do for them?
-Within the ESIP community, this is an easy sell.  How do we organize ourselves when we are meeting face to face to get the most mileage out of that time?
-Bill asked if the 1-4 agenda he posted on the Wiki would work as an agenda as well for the winter meeting?   If needed, it could be parsed and prepared for the winter meeting.
-Some of this may be served as a poster session rather than rehash what has been discussed and people can self select what they would be involved in.  Is the proof of concept idea working?
-What is the best way to convene this group and the Semantics group during meeting?
-What topics can we have at the meeting?
-User groups
-Ontologies
-Semantics
-Tools discussion
-	-Open Source and HydroSeek
-There was a discussion about making the best use of the poster session.  This would include the capability to have demos and then use the breakout sessions to use the tools. In the poster area we should also be able to do demos.
-CUASHI would like to see a use case and show what it can do.
-It was felt that it might be beneficial to have a discussion with Peter Fox and Jim Hendler to see how to merge the groups (water and semantics) at the meeting and what could be discussed.
-Next Steps
--crafting a mission and objectives statement
--have a conversation to how to craft a January call
--Look at the components of a proof of concept
--Work with the people in the office on user cases
-Meeting ended 2:20 PM
+Action Items:
+:*Link to NIDIS for scenario
+:*Poll Cluster members about Drought or Water Quality scenario
+:*All - Review and edit Draft vision statemente for Water Cluster
 ===Action Items===
 ==[[Previous Telecons]]==