Cloud Telecons 2

From Federation of Earth Science Information Partners
Revision as of 17:27, October 24, 2011 by Cyang3 (talk | contribs)

Oct 24, 1-2pm, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon

  1. Participants: Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
  2. Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
  3. Supportor: Qunying Huang
  4. Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
  5. Attendee access code: 23133897#


  1. Cluster objective, communication recap.(website, email list, etc)
  2. Winter meeting cloud session plan.(3 put in)
  3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
  4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
  5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
  6. Activities outside biannual meeting.
  7. Other relevant topics


Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc).

  1. Wiki page:
  2. Brand: Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
  3. Email List:
    1. To register in the email list, use the following link:
    2. Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
  4. Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM
    1. Phil will send out the reminder (monthly to, only to esip all every 4-5 monthly reminder)
  5. Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve

Winter meeting cloud session plan

  1. Erin: Sessions introduction: two in am, two in pm, different number of speakers, total 1.5 hours
  2. P&S Tasks and cloud computing, it is not focused on cloud but could be setup requirements for cloud computing, e.g., "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines.
  3. Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
    1. Phil will contact to invite Mike L. from HQ and Thomas will be inviting speakers from JPL, Ames, etc.
  4. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
    1. Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.
    2. Defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?
    3. Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?
    4. Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
    5. Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different tasks
    6. Using the cloud, where we will be going from cloud
    7. Compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members

Webinar cloud presentations by companies.

  1. 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products.
  2. Nov monthly meeting: Rick will set up a presentation
  3. Topics of the presentations based on audiences
    1. What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications, communities;
    2. Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
    3. What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
    4. JPL : Big data in the cloud computing

A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.

  1. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities to form a wishlist for the cloud computing
  2. After people signed up for the cloud cluster email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
  3. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon to decide a December telecon time
  4. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
  5. Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.
  6. Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
  7. Summarize the discussion for a potential December monthly telecon

Activities outside biannual meeting.

  1. could we have type of services for ESIP members (Brand).

Meeting Adjourned at 2pm