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===Notes===
 
===Notes===
'''Water Cluster telecon – March 4, 2010'''
 
  
Present:
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'''Water Telecon – April 1, 2010'''
*William Sonntag
 
*Brian Rogan
 
*Carol Meyer
 
*Bruce Bargemeyer
 
*Rob Raskin
 
*Chuck Spooner
 
*Will Pozzi
 
*Jami Montgomery
 
*Christine Eggers
 
*Phil Yang
 
  
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'''Present'''
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Bill Sonntag
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Brian Rogan
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Carol Meyer
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Luis Bermudez
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Bruce Bargemeyer
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Jami Montgomery
  
  
'''Review of last call'''  
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'''Review of notes from last call'''
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There was a brief discussion of the notes from the last call
  
Notes are posted on the wiki from 2/4 call
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'''Discussion of use case development, status of discussions with Gulf of Maine programs'''
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Bill spent time last week talking with people about the use case development. The drought scenarios are moving forward quickly according to Will Pozzi.  They are using the work of CUASHI and HydroSeek and adding to it.  It is hoped that there can be a finalized use case scenario for the Gulf of Maine soon.  There are some significant developments:
  
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*MMI has been involved in the Gulf of Maine for a significant amount of time
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*Go MOOS has just gotten a new grant from the EPA as the lead in a multi state proposal.  It has been approved.  They have become GoMRI
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*The interest in the ecoinformatics process as an institution in North America ties in as well.
  
'''Status AIP 3 Process'''
 
  
The group completed a general review of the status of the GEOSS AIP-3 call. 
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'''AIP-3 Process update'''
Bill went over the responses that have come in up to this point at the website  http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/635
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We currently have the capability of getting something in by May 3 to GEO.  While it may not work for the ministerial meeting there are some already selected for that meeting.  
  
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'''Semantic ontology management - path forward'''
  
There was discussion about what area of interest might be appropriate for ESIP Water Cluster group member submission. 
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Previous work to build a semantic architecture was a bit optimistic that it could be done quickly but it needs to continue to be worked on.  
The Gulf of Maine was identified by EPA as an area of current interest.
 
  
It was also noted that there is international interest from Europe and the Ecoinformatics group may submit something as a joint venture.  
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One big question is how do we manage ontologies.  
  
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We have not gotten to the point where we are picking management schemes in the water domain.
  
Will Pozzi gave an overview of what is expected for responses.  
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In other informatics context, we have had a chance to look at the Stanford BioPortalLuis feels that this the cornerstone of work at MMI
There is no need to put anything out quicklyThey will be accepting responses throughout the whole year. 
 
  
Will explained why the Chesapeake shouldn’t be considered as a use case.  
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We are setting the stage to demonstrate the utility of an array of registries that will work for us.  We are in a wait and see on the use case at this point.
  
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Bill is proposing that the group have deliberations on some of the utilities.  At the ESIP meeting, we can have a workshop to get the APIs and start to do some experiments with them to see how they serve us.
  
'''Semantic data architecture - use case template'''
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Bruce has been looking at the BioPortal and MMI portal to track evolutionary patterns.  He is finding the MMI is using the backend of BioPortal.  He is hoping that it can keep up. 
  
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He feels that it will be similar to XMR in the future.
  
There is a use case template that is already available on the ESIP wiki.   
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Richard Hooper was going to expand the ontology used in HydroSeekGreg Ondich who is doing work for Gary Foley is also doing some ontology work and he is working with him to point out the work that has already been done.   
Bill asked for a small group that could fill out a couple of use cases on the templateThis would entail a weekly telecon that would complete the process and then report out to the larger cluster group.
 
  
Bill will spend some more time on the template to determine a course of action.  
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Bruce wants to be sure the onotology work is coordinated between the different groups.  
  
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Luis wondered if this can be folded into the AIP initiative
  
'''Development of Topics for ESIP Summer meeting'''
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Bill mentioned that there is a potential to work with the ontologies group headed by Peter Fox to have a collaborative effort at the Summer Meeting.
  
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There would be a  series of demonstrations of portals that could occur during the next telecons leading up to the meeting. 
  
The summer meeting is July 20-23 in Knoxville, TN.  The group needs to think about what we want to do during the meeting.
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We need to determine what can be accomplished between now and July and we need to reach out to the semantics group to see what we can do.  There is also work that can be done with the Decisions cluster.  
Carol gave the group an overview of how the meeting would workIt is important that the group determine what it will need for space requirements, etc.  
 
  
The template is posted and it can be filled in as ideas area created.
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What are the difficult questions that still need to be answered?  It is worth trying to establish this list before moving forward.  
  
This should be an opportunity for EPA to highlight some areas.   
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Scientists want to know for a particular time when something passes a particular point and compare it to previous dataIt helps to be able to determine how well the buoys or other sensors are working.
  
The assembly of data within the community is difficult. Is a community of practice the idea location to bring these questions?
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Bill will be sending around an email to compile a series of questions for the next conversation.  
  
There are a number of individuals that would be able to contribute to the discussion.  The group will work on topic development
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'''Activities for ESIP Summer meeting'''
  
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Interest in reaching out to the other groups and see what kind of collaborations can created.
  
'''Other topics suggested by participants'''
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'''Other topics'''
  
There were no other suggested topics at this time.  
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There were no other topics suggested.  
  
Meeting was adjourned at 4 PM
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The meeting was adjourned at 3:45 PM
  
 
===Action Items===
 
===Action Items===
  
 
==[[Previous Telecons]]==
 
==[[Previous Telecons]]==

Revision as of 13:47, April 1, 2010

Main ESIP page >> Main Water Clusterpage


April 1 2010 Telecon

3 pm EST
Phone: Meeting Number: 877-326-0011
Meeting Code: *7884944*


Topics

  • Review of notes from last call
  • Discussion of use case development, status of discussions with Gulf of Maine programs
  • AIP-3 Process update
  • Semantic ontology management - path forward
  • Activities for ESIP Summer meeting
  • Other topics (please make a suggestion)
  • Adjournment
  • Date of next Teleconference

Meeting Docs

Notes

Water Telecon – April 1, 2010

Present Bill Sonntag Brian Rogan Carol Meyer Luis Bermudez Bruce Bargemeyer Jami Montgomery


Review of notes from last call There was a brief discussion of the notes from the last call

Discussion of use case development, status of discussions with Gulf of Maine programs Bill spent time last week talking with people about the use case development. The drought scenarios are moving forward quickly according to Will Pozzi. They are using the work of CUASHI and HydroSeek and adding to it. It is hoped that there can be a finalized use case scenario for the Gulf of Maine soon. There are some significant developments:

  • MMI has been involved in the Gulf of Maine for a significant amount of time
  • Go MOOS has just gotten a new grant from the EPA as the lead in a multi state proposal. It has been approved. They have become GoMRI
  • The interest in the ecoinformatics process as an institution in North America ties in as well.


AIP-3 Process update We currently have the capability of getting something in by May 3 to GEO. While it may not work for the ministerial meeting there are some already selected for that meeting.

Semantic ontology management - path forward

Previous work to build a semantic architecture was a bit optimistic that it could be done quickly but it needs to continue to be worked on.

One big question is how do we manage ontologies.

We have not gotten to the point where we are picking management schemes in the water domain.

In other informatics context, we have had a chance to look at the Stanford BioPortal. Luis feels that this the cornerstone of work at MMI

We are setting the stage to demonstrate the utility of an array of registries that will work for us. We are in a wait and see on the use case at this point.

Bill is proposing that the group have deliberations on some of the utilities. At the ESIP meeting, we can have a workshop to get the APIs and start to do some experiments with them to see how they serve us.

Bruce has been looking at the BioPortal and MMI portal to track evolutionary patterns. He is finding the MMI is using the backend of BioPortal. He is hoping that it can keep up.

He feels that it will be similar to XMR in the future.

Richard Hooper was going to expand the ontology used in HydroSeek. Greg Ondich who is doing work for Gary Foley is also doing some ontology work and he is working with him to point out the work that has already been done.

Bruce wants to be sure the onotology work is coordinated between the different groups.

Luis wondered if this can be folded into the AIP initiative

Bill mentioned that there is a potential to work with the ontologies group headed by Peter Fox to have a collaborative effort at the Summer Meeting.

There would be a series of demonstrations of portals that could occur during the next telecons leading up to the meeting.

We need to determine what can be accomplished between now and July and we need to reach out to the semantics group to see what we can do. There is also work that can be done with the Decisions cluster.

What are the difficult questions that still need to be answered? It is worth trying to establish this list before moving forward.

Scientists want to know for a particular time when something passes a particular point and compare it to previous data. It helps to be able to determine how well the buoys or other sensors are working.

Bill will be sending around an email to compile a series of questions for the next conversation.

Activities for ESIP Summer meeting

Interest in reaching out to the other groups and see what kind of collaborations can created.

Other topics

There were no other topics suggested.

The meeting was adjourned at 3:45 PM

Action Items

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