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WHAT: '''ESIP Testbed: Encouraging Technology Innovation for Earth Science'''<br/><br />
WHEN: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 from 1:30pm-3:00PM <br/><br />
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'''Abstract & Agenda:'''<br />
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Presentations and discussions about the latest developments and capabilities of the ESIP Testbed, to include a presentation on the ESIP portal and new support and capabilities for Testbed activities.<br />
Suggestion for summer meeting session agenda: Wed, July 18, 1:30-3:00pm<br />
*(10 min) Overview of Testbed and recent efforts (Ken)<br />
*(20 min) New Testbed Portal - a better environment for innovation and collaboration (Jing Li, Phil, Ken)<br />
*(30 min) Using ESIP services (Christine, Erin) - Cloud, Drupal, Web, Commons<br />
*(30 min) New directions - open discussion on Testbed next steps<br />
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== '''Session Notes''' ==<br />
ESIP Testbed Session Notes to post<br />
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Portal presentation: mention that roles also includes "public" in addition to member and developer<br />
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ESIP Services<br />
* Testbed as collaborative portal<br />
* Issues with ESIP group acct for Amazon<br />
* pre-paid acct to limit exposure<br />
* JPL has corporate account<br />
* There are problems with freezing Amazon instance. Some people did not have very pleasant experience with freezing.<br />
* If you are using 80% of your machine time, you should own the machine - JPL NASA study.<br />
* Main problem is to have a common ESIP Amazon account. Amazon does not allow consolidated billing and requires you to put personal credit card number. There may be alternatives.<br />
* What about Terabytes of data usages, what about its cost? Current Amazon cost is around $100 per months for few projects.<br />
* Having a collaborative development environment is main problem. Sysadmin needs to open ports for other institutions. This is the why Testbed could not be hosted on local university machines.<br />
* Owning a private cloud is expensive for ESIP at this moment, but hosting a private cloud for ESIP may be cheaper in longer terms.<br />
* Frank: where is it practical to use cloud resources and/or purchase an ESIP server<br />
* James: use AWS to manage VM images instead of considering using gitHub to manage VMs<br />
* might be a student project to figure out how to manage AWS resources as an ESIP entity<br />
* Eric - how to manage budgeting/billing of cloud (and other) resources?<br />
* Reasons for using cloud resources<br />
* resources that are not secured or blocked - or require sysadmin efforts<br />
* hosting data? we haven't had any experience with using AWS to host data yet<br />
* Consider using the Testbed portal (or some tool) to track progress/status of projects and services. Had not considered tracking status of services<br />
* ESIP is evaluating Pantheon vs. Bluehost vs. Amazon Cloud pros and cons. Develop on Pantheon and move to Bluehost later etc.<br />
* ESIP Testbed Geoportal Link: http://23.23.211.222:8080/geoportal/catalog/main/home.page<br />
* ESIP Testbed Best Practices Link: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/ESIP_Testbed_Amazon_Web_Services_Best_Practices<br />
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Open Discussion<br />
* Christine: sugest doing a plenary presentation at the winter meeting that will explain and advocate the Testbed, Commons, ESIP Portal, services, etc. - assuming that some of these things have gelled by the winter meeting<br />
* Frank: Consider asking representatives from some other projects that provide user services to talk at one of the monthly telecons<br />
* project columbia - examples of how to allocate resources<br />
* others that I did not capture<br />
* NASA Airborne Science Program (suggested by Steve as governance example ) http://airbornescience.nasa.gov/ <br />
* Suggestion for better outreach: Once Testbed has a better process, in next winter meeting it can be shown during plenary sessions.<br />
* Question: How to host server side applications on Testbed that requires separate post and have lots of data?</div>Keiser