Talk:Data Summit Workspace

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Decision Support Schematic -- RScheffe 20:31, 16 January 2008 (EST)

EndtoEndAirQualityDataDecisionSupport.jpg


Below is the WRAP DSS Architecture slide Neil and I were discussing during last week's call. The idea is that it conveys in a simple means the steps from raw data to inteegration/manipultaion and finally tro decision making. We would use this as a guide for the braek outs to focus on the left and center portions of the diagram. Anyawy...I'd like to use today's call to flesh out soem specifics/questions/gyuidance for the day 1 breakout groups. Rudy/Terry...and all.(David, Phil...Nick, ...) ..join if you can...originally just Joe and I were going to workk with Louis behind the scenes on some of these steps...but chime in if you can...if nothing else, it will keep you apprised of what is going on...

Re: Decision Support Schematic -- Rhusar 12:56, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Yes! See On Decision Support System Architectures

Data Summit Table-- Tesh Rao 17 January 2008 (EST)

Data Summit Table - Word Doc
I expanded the table a bit, but not too much. I mainly look at it as link, that definitely needs to be maintained from am day one to pm day one to day two. It can be polished a bit as needed.

This could be one of the items handed to the breakout sessions for completion during its individual discussion. The (my kind of half-baked) idea it to use this to "tie" things together. Under each "business topic" category, the groups would identify which raw data systems and which data processing centers are most important via this table. Then, the group would discuss, theoretically, which of the chosen attributes are most important in summation when we begin talking about a "system of systems." {There may need to be more than one of those depending on application...which is what we want to discuss and best to streamline that :-) ). Those thought would go in the colored row at the bottom of each of the table subsections. Talk could even be focused on whether any data processing center that is existent and mature now can handle many of the attributes that we arrive at for each "business topic." Then the discussion can expand, as possible and do-able, to streamlining techniques across all the business topics. Beyond that, a few other points:

  • In the 8 minute presentations in the morning of the 1st day, on top of the items we gave to Lou Sweeny as topics for each speaker to cover, I would add something that describes the maturity of the system in question (as well as perceived user community). Only after today's RSIG meeting did I realize that it has advanced so far in terms of implementation (though the number of users is probably small in that case). Also covered should be issue of sustainability for each of the systems. If the presenters have examples/papers/reports/policy related work that has been done using their system (this wouldn't really apply to some of them like AQS), it would be good to identify those briefly.
  • We are addressing 4 very broad "business topics"--and the ones chosen are good--but we should think about anything we are missing (as far as future importance for OAQPS) under the umbrella of topics we have. Climate Change, for example, comes to mind.
  • I am sure there will be discussion items that come up that aren't directly related to any of the structured discussion items, but may be important to the overall big picture. I would have the note-takers keep track of those in a "parking lot" list.
  • When Tsirigotis/Curran were here, we had a discussion about how a data analyst spends 80% of any given project on data assimilation, data reduction, and general data readying. Only 20% of his/her time is spent on actual visualization/interpretation. The idea as we think about approaching a "system of systems" is for being able to reduce the 80% number for a data analyst. One of Airquest's initial goals was to do this. This could be framed as a discussion item for the breakout sessions. Even though we have a proliferation of tools now for accessing (ambient) data now compared to say 6-7 years ago, this 80/20 split hasn't gone down a great deal.
  • Again, after today's RSIG meeting, we need to manage time very effectively, otherwise we could get caught in a very narrow discussion of relatively few topics. Need the facilitator to keep track of time well. And, you have it on the agenda, but next steps should be clearly delineated both at the beginning of the first day and especially at the end of the second day.
  • To me, this is a very needed discussion and it needs to be done efficiently and well. There just seems to be so much overlap between systems that exist now (AQ, RSIG, etc.) and funds seems to be used for duplicative items. I'll stop here for now.

Notes for the Jan 29 Data Summit Telecon -- Rhusar 13:51, 29 January 2008 (EST)

  • Data system profiles have been prepared to aid the classification, intercomparison of the various data systems. If these data system profile forms are filled out prior to the Feb. 12 meeting, Louis, Rich and others could (1) analyze the profiles, (2) present the outcome at the meeting, and (3) support the breakout session discussions.
  • Following the call to "chime in", a wiki page has been prepared on the topic of On Decision-Support System Architectures, highlighting the differences between 'stovepipe', networked, and user/market-driven architectures.
  • Prepared a collage 'Perspectives on GEOSS, Air Quality, IT' consisting of excerpts from presentations by Foley, Scheffe, Keating, Szykman, Niebert, Percivall and Husar. Would you spare an idea, yours or someone else's? e-mail ideas to rhusar@me.wustl.edu and we will add it to the collage.
  • Data Summit participants may be interested in the GEOSS Architecture Implementation Pilot. Contributions for defining and reviewing the 'smoke scenario' would be particularly welcome.

Monday Pre-Meeting before Data Summit -- NFrank 29 January 2008 (EST)

Rudy is working on a project for me and I have invited him to make a few 90 minute data-summit related presentations to EPA on Monday Feb 11. Topics will include DataFed - indepth overview; and Exceptional Events analysis, as a DataFed application.

I am also thinking that a more substantive presentation to EPA about RSIG and maybe VIEWS would also be good to include that day.

Rich was going to send out an preliminary announcement last week but it apparently didnt happen. :-)

Just wanted you to know in case you want to come a day early and to tentatively block time on your calendar. I will send out more details later.