https://wiki.esipfed.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Standard_Names_-_Discussed_Atmospheric_Chemistry_and_Aerosol_Terms&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:CF Standard Names - Discussed Atmospheric Chemistry and Aerosol Terms - Revision history2024-03-28T20:24:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.14https://wiki.esipfed.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Standard_Names_-_Discussed_Atmospheric_Chemistry_and_Aerosol_Terms&diff=9188&oldid=prevChristiane: Talk:CF Standard Names - Proposed Atmospheric Chemistry and Aerosol Terms moved to Talk:CF Standard Names - Discussed Atmospheric Chemistry and Aerosol Terms2007-07-11T13:47:59Z<p>Talk:CF Standard Names - Proposed Atmospheric Chemistry and Aerosol Terms moved to Talk:CF Standard Names - Discussed Atmospheric Chemistry and Aerosol Terms</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Vincent-Henri PEUCH VHP - CT - Jonathan Gregory JG - Frank Dentener FD - David Stevenson DS, June/July 2006'''</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Vincent-Henri PEUCH VHP - CT - Jonathan Gregory JG - Frank Dentener FD - David Stevenson DS, June/July 2006'''</div></td></tr>
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</table>Christianehttps://wiki.esipfed.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Standard_Names_-_Discussed_Atmospheric_Chemistry_and_Aerosol_Terms&diff=5177&oldid=prevChristiane at 15:19, July 18, 20062006-07-18T15:19:02Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::DS: We used the monthly mean 150 ppbv O3 isosurface as a post-processing mask on all monthly mean 3-D fields in the ACCENT work. This worked well, but may be less appropriate for instantaneous model fields, and/or in high resolution models (e.g. boundary layer ozone in a very polluted episode may exceed 150 ppbv; and a recently incorporated tropopause fold may also). We also had to be careful to define the mask for one case (e.g. the year 2000 base scenario) and then use it for all cases (e.g. various future emissions scenarios), otherwise the mass (or volume) of tropospheric air changes. One disadvantage is that the mass (or volume) of the troposphere then varies between models; this problem will occur for any definition, but perhaps shows less variation for better known definitions such as the WMO tropopause. We chose the chemical tropopause method because it had been used previously (IPCC 2001) and was easy to implement in post-processing (i.e. it didn't rely on modellers). If you are asking modellers to define tropospheric column amounts then that is open to problems. I would just ask for full model 3-D fields and calculate tropospheric columns in a consistent way in post-processing. If a variety of tropopause definitions is also asked for (WMO, 2PVU, 380K...) then you can use whichever you like when it comes down to it. But don't ask the modellers to do it, as they will all do something different.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::DS: We used the monthly mean 150 ppbv O3 isosurface as a post-processing mask on all monthly mean 3-D fields in the ACCENT work. This worked well, but may be less appropriate for instantaneous model fields, and/or in high resolution models (e.g. boundary layer ozone in a very polluted episode may exceed 150 ppbv; and a recently incorporated tropopause fold may also). We also had to be careful to define the mask for one case (e.g. the year 2000 base scenario) and then use it for all cases (e.g. various future emissions scenarios), otherwise the mass (or volume) of tropospheric air changes. One disadvantage is that the mass (or volume) of the troposphere then varies between models; this problem will occur for any definition, but perhaps shows less variation for better known definitions such as the WMO tropopause. We chose the chemical tropopause method because it had been used previously (IPCC 2001) and was easy to implement in post-processing (i.e. it didn't rely on modellers). If you are asking modellers to define tropospheric column amounts then that is open to problems. I would just ask for full model 3-D fields and calculate tropospheric columns in a consistent way in post-processing. If a variety of tropopause definitions is also asked for (WMO, 2PVU, 380K...) then you can use whichever you like when it comes down to it. But don't ask the modellers to do it, as they will all do something different.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Christianehttps://wiki.esipfed.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Standard_Names_-_Discussed_Atmospheric_Chemistry_and_Aerosol_Terms&diff=5155&oldid=prevChristiane: /* NOy */2006-07-18T14:10:56Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">NOy</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: The description of the "troposphere_content*" variables is not enough detailed because it is indeed verticaly integrated, but up to the tropopause only. We can specify in the explanation "up to the tropopause level", but we probably also have to specify the tropopause definition to be used (2PVU,380K ?) as the value is quite sensitive to the specific criterion used (for species with strong vertical gradients at the tropopause like ozone). A drawback of specifying is that any other type of hypotheses (other "tropopause" definition : 150 ppb of ozone, 100 hPa,...) or other ways of computation (specific tracer in the model) would then no longer fit with the name. I don't know the solution...</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: The description of the "troposphere_content*" variables is not enough detailed because it is indeed verticaly integrated, but up to the tropopause only. We can specify in the explanation "up to the tropopause level", but we probably also have to specify the tropopause definition to be used (2PVU,380K ?) as the value is quite sensitive to the specific criterion used (for species with strong vertical gradients at the tropopause like ozone). A drawback of specifying is that any other type of hypotheses (other "tropopause" definition : 150 ppb of ozone, 100 hPa,...) or other ways of computation (specific tracer in the model) would then no longer fit with the name. I don't know the solution...</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">::DS: We used the monthly mean 150 ppbv O3 isosurface as a post-processing mask on all monthly mean 3-D fields in the ACCENT work. This worked well, but may be less appropriate for instantaneous model fields, and/or in high resolution models (e.g. boundary layer ozone in a very polluted episode may exceed 150 ppbv; and a recently incorporated tropopause fold may also). We also had to be careful to define the mask for one case (e.g. the year 2000 base scenario) and then use it for all cases (e.g. various future emissions scenarios), otherwise the mass (or volume) of tropospheric air changes. One disadvantage is that the mass (or volume) of the troposphere then varies between models; this problem will occur for any definition, but perhaps shows less variation for better known definitions such as the WMO tropopause. We chose the chemical tropopause method because it had been used previously (IPCC 2001) and was easy to implement in post-processing (i.e. it didn't rely on modellers). If you are asking modellers to define tropospheric column amounts then that is open to problems. I would just ask for full model 3-D fields and calculate tropospheric columns in a consistent way in post-processing. If a variety of tropopause definitions is also asked for (WMO, 2PVU, 380K...) then you can use whichever you like when it comes down to it. But don't ask the modellers to do it, as they will all do something different</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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