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Next steps:
 
Next steps:
  
Group ROI
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== Group ROI ==
Develop framework for ROI analysis:
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Breakout session notes: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20160721_ESIP_summer_mtg
For whom (different stakeholders, and their motivations) is the ROI measured -
 
investors,
 
user/researcher,
 
Institution,
 
Purely business approach by the repository
 
Considerations:
 
Repository maturity
 
Data set maturity (degree of integration with other data)
 
Decide on approach:
 
Case study,
 
Provide a place within ESIP to collect user stories, count publications
 
Guidelines to do an assessment but leave it to the repository
 
How do we know that we succeeded when we are done with the evaluation
 
Roles of small vs larger repos
 
Value of small repositories -
 
Parameters may differ from large repo params
 
Their role may be peer-pressure (social)
 
Federators (eg, dataone) params
 
May be more technical
 
  
Group Landscape Analysis
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=== Develop framework for ROI analysis ===
See sustainable DM wiki http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20160720_ESIP_summer_mtg
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: For whom (different stakeholders, and their motivations) is the ROI measured - 
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:: investors, 
 +
:: user/researcher, 
 +
:: Institution,
 +
:: Purely business approach by the repository
 +
:  Considerations:
 +
:: Repository maturity
 +
:: Data set maturity (degree of integration with other data)
 +
:: Decide on approach:
 +
: Case study,
 +
:: Provide a place within ESIP to collect user stories, count publications
 +
:: Guidelines to do an assessment but leave it to the repository
 +
:: How do we know that we succeeded when we are done with the evaluation
 +
: Roles of small vs larger repos
 +
:: Value of small repositories -
 +
:: Parameters may differ from large repo params
 +
:: Their role may be peer-pressure (social)
 +
: Federators (eg, dataone) params
 +
:: May be more technical
  
Need:  
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== Group Landscape/Gap Analysis ==
Understand content in re3data|copdess.
+
Breakout session notes: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20160720_ESIP_summer_mtg
Eg, confirm: re3data is canonical, copdess is view + additional info
 
maintenance frequency, responsible parties.
 
Contact: ?Shelley Stall?
 
Understand activities of copdess to avoid duplication
 
Schema used by COS
 
Best mechanisms for conversation
 
  
Apply peer pressure to get data into the registries or update (via Shelley etc)
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=== Identify needs ===
  
Group Technology Gaps
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: Understand content in re3data|copdess.
Identify both gaps and overlaps, to avoid straining an already overloaded funding system\
+
:: Eg, confirm: re3data is canonical, copdess is view + additional info
Identify value of the small and large repositories
+
:; maintenance frequency, responsible parties.
Identify the common things we need
+
::: Contact: ?Shelley Stall?
 +
:: Understand activities of copdess to avoid duplication
 +
::: Schema used by COS
 +
::: Best mechanisms for conversation
  
Group Data Commons
+
:Apply peer pressure to get data into the registries or update (via Shelley etc)
 +
 
 +
== Group Technical Vision ==
 +
:Identify both gaps and overlaps, to avoid straining an already overloaded funding system\
 +
:Identify value of the small and large repositories
 +
:Identify the common things we need
 +
:also note other groups that we overlap with.
 +
 
 +
== Breakout groups of interest this week ==
 +
Other breakout groups or clusters that we overlap with, and should be aware of their work
 +
 
 +
===Data Commons (Breakout)===
 +
Session summary: http://
 
Session summary: breakout promoted easier use. Need a mechanism - how can repos be coupled?
 
Session summary: breakout promoted easier use. Need a mechanism - how can repos be coupled?
  
Shared: search mechanisms
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The things small repos want to share are
Tools for researchers
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: Shared: search mechanisms
 +
: Tools for researchers
 +
Note: a lot of what we do to 'sustain data' is invisible work, and most of what gets funded is the bells and whistles (eg, web apps). how do we make the invisible work more appreciated?
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===Stewardship===
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:their focus is the preservation of data. some of that is by the repos.
 +
:for sustDM, the repos is a POV for organizing tasks and potential collaboration, because they offer DM services.
  
How do we fund people who are doing the invisible work -- right now people are funded to make bells and whistles
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==Action items==
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===ROI===
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# needs to meet and nail down questions to ask
 +
# (perhaps meet in November in Arizona again)
  
Future steps:
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===Landscape/Gap===
ROI needs to meet and nail down questions to ask
+
# find up to date info (Shelley Stall)
(perhaps meet in November in Arizona again)
+
# apply peer pressure where needed to get copdes/re3data up to date.
  
Join the mailing list
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===Everyone===
Attend monthly calls
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# Join the mailing list, if needed
Meet up at RDA/International Data Week in Denver
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# Attend monthly calls
Winter ESIP
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# Meet up at RDA/International Data Week in Denver
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# Winter ESIP

Latest revision as of 10:02, July 22, 2016

Notes 7_22 Sustainable Data Management

Next steps:

Group ROI

Breakout session notes: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20160721_ESIP_summer_mtg

Develop framework for ROI analysis

For whom (different stakeholders, and their motivations) is the ROI measured -
investors,
user/researcher,
Institution,
Purely business approach by the repository
Considerations:
Repository maturity
Data set maturity (degree of integration with other data)
Decide on approach:
Case study,
Provide a place within ESIP to collect user stories, count publications
Guidelines to do an assessment but leave it to the repository
How do we know that we succeeded when we are done with the evaluation
Roles of small vs larger repos
Value of small repositories -
Parameters may differ from large repo params
Their role may be peer-pressure (social)
Federators (eg, dataone) params
May be more technical

Group Landscape/Gap Analysis

Breakout session notes: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20160720_ESIP_summer_mtg

Identify needs

Understand content in re3data|copdess.
Eg, confirm: re3data is canonical, copdess is view + additional info
maintenance frequency, responsible parties.
Contact: ?Shelley Stall?
Understand activities of copdess to avoid duplication
Schema used by COS
Best mechanisms for conversation
Apply peer pressure to get data into the registries or update (via Shelley etc)

Group Technical Vision

Identify both gaps and overlaps, to avoid straining an already overloaded funding system\
Identify value of the small and large repositories
Identify the common things we need
also note other groups that we overlap with.

Breakout groups of interest this week

Other breakout groups or clusters that we overlap with, and should be aware of their work

Data Commons (Breakout)

Session summary: http:// Session summary: breakout promoted easier use. Need a mechanism - how can repos be coupled?

The things small repos want to share are

Shared: search mechanisms
Tools for researchers

Note: a lot of what we do to 'sustain data' is invisible work, and most of what gets funded is the bells and whistles (eg, web apps). how do we make the invisible work more appreciated?

Stewardship

their focus is the preservation of data. some of that is by the repos.
for sustDM, the repos is a POV for organizing tasks and potential collaboration, because they offer DM services.

Action items

ROI

  1. needs to meet and nail down questions to ask
  2. (perhaps meet in November in Arizona again)

Landscape/Gap

  1. find up to date info (Shelley Stall)
  2. apply peer pressure where needed to get copdes/re3data up to date.

Everyone

  1. Join the mailing list, if needed
  2. Attend monthly calls
  3. Meet up at RDA/International Data Week in Denver
  4. Winter ESIP