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'''Oct 24, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon'''
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'''Oct 24, 1-2pm, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon'''
  
# Participants:   Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
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# Participants: Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
 
# Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
 
# Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
 
# Supportor: Qunying Huang
 
# Supportor: Qunying Huang
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# Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
 
# Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
# Brian:  Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
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# Brand:  Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
 
# Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
 
# Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
 
## To register in the email list, use the following link: http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
 
## To register in the email list, use the following link: http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
 
## Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
 
## Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
# Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month
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# Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM
## Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder)
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## Phil will send out the reminder (monthly to esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org, only to esip all every 4-5 monthly reminder)
# Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve
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# Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve
  
  
 
Winter meeting cloud session plan  
 
Winter meeting cloud session plan  
 
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# Erin: Sessions introduction:  two in am, two in pm, different number of speakers, total 1.5 hours
# P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines.   
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# P&S Tasks and cloud computing, it is not focused on cloud but could be setup requirements for cloud computing, e.g., "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines.   
# Sessions:  2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers,
 
# Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker
 
 
# Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
 
# Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
# Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general
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## Phil will contact to invite Mike L. from HQ and Thomas will be inviting speakers from JPL, Ames, etc.
# Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL  
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# ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
 
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## Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.  
 
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## Defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?  
ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
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## Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?  
# Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.  
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## Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
# Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?  
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## Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different tasks
# Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?  
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## Using the cloud, where we will be going from cloud
# Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
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## Compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members
# Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks
 
# Using the cloud , where we will be going
 
# Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members
 
 
 
  
 
Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
 
Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
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# Nov monthly meeting: Rick will set up a presentation  
 
# Nov monthly meeting: Rick will set up a presentation  
 
# Topics of the presentations based on audiences  
 
# Topics of the presentations based on audiences  
## What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities;
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## What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications, communities;
 
## Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
 
## Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
 
## What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
 
## What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
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A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
 
A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
  
# Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing
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# Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities to form a wishlist for the cloud computing
# After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
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# After people signed up for the cloud cluster email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
# Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon
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# Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon to decide a December telecon time
 
# Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
 
# Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
 
# Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.  
 
# Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.  
 
# Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
 
# Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
# Summarize the discussion, and talk again next  monthly meeting
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# Summarize the discussion for a potential December monthly telecon
  
  
 
Activities outside biannual meeting.
 
Activities outside biannual meeting.
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# could we have data.gov type of services for ESIP members (Brand).
  
# data.gov type of services.
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Meeting Adjourned at 2pm
 
 
 
 
Other relevant topics
 

Revision as of 17:27, October 24, 2011

Oct 24, 1-2pm, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon

  1. Participants: Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
  2. Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
  3. Supportor: Qunying Huang
  4. Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
  5. Attendee access code: 23133897#


Agenda

  1. Cluster objective, communication recap.(website, email list, etc)
  2. Winter meeting cloud session plan.(3 put in)
  3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
  4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
  5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
  6. Activities outside biannual meeting.
  7. Other relevant topics


Note:


Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc).

  1. Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
  2. Brand: Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
  3. Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
    1. To register in the email list, use the following link: http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
    2. Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
  4. Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM
    1. Phil will send out the reminder (monthly to esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org, only to esip all every 4-5 monthly reminder)
  5. Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve


Winter meeting cloud session plan

  1. Erin: Sessions introduction: two in am, two in pm, different number of speakers, total 1.5 hours
  2. P&S Tasks and cloud computing, it is not focused on cloud but could be setup requirements for cloud computing, e.g., "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines.
  3. Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
    1. Phil will contact to invite Mike L. from HQ and Thomas will be inviting speakers from JPL, Ames, etc.
  4. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
    1. Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.
    2. Defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?
    3. Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?
    4. Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
    5. Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different tasks
    6. Using the cloud, where we will be going from cloud
    7. Compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members

Webinar cloud presentations by companies.

  1. 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products.
  2. Nov monthly meeting: Rick will set up a presentation
  3. Topics of the presentations based on audiences
    1. What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications, communities;
    2. Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
    3. What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
    4. JPL : Big data in the cloud computing

A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.

  1. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities to form a wishlist for the cloud computing
  2. After people signed up for the cloud cluster email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
  3. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon to decide a December telecon time
  4. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
  5. Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.
  6. Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
  7. Summarize the discussion for a potential December monthly telecon


Activities outside biannual meeting.

  1. could we have data.gov type of services for ESIP members (Brand).

Meeting Adjourned at 2pm