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'''Oct 24, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon'''
 
'''Oct 24, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon'''
  
Participants:  Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
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# Participants:  Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
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# Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
Supportor: Qunying Huang
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# Supportor: Qunying Huang
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
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# Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
Attendee access code: 23133897#
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# Attendee access code: 23133897#
  
  
Agenda
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'''Agenda'''
  
#   Cluster objective, communication recap.(website, email list, etc)
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# Cluster objective, communication recap.(website, email list, etc)
#   Winter meeting cloud session plan.(3 put in)
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# Winter meeting cloud session plan.(3 put in)
# ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
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# ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
#   Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
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# Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
# A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
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# A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
#   Activities outside biannual meeting.
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# Activities outside biannual meeting.
# Other relevant topics
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# Other relevant topics
  
  
Note:
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'''Note:'''
  
  
Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc).
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Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc).
  
# Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
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# Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
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# Brian:  Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
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# Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
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## To register in the email list, use the following link: http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
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## Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
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# Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month
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## Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder)
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# Add more resources, whitepaper to  the resources achieve
  
#  Brian:  Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
 
  
#  Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
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Winter meeting cloud session plan
To register in the email list, use the following link:
 
http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
 
#  Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
 
# Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month
 
  
# Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder)
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# P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines. 
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# Sessions:  2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers,
 +
# Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker
 +
# Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
 +
Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general
 +
# Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL
  
# Add more resources, whitepaper to  the resources achieve
 
  
  Winter meeting cloud session plan
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ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
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# Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.
 +
# Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?
 +
# Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?
 +
# Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
 +
# Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks
 +
# Using the cloud , where we will be going
 +
# Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members
  
#  P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines. 
 
# Sessions:  2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers,
 
# Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker
 
# Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
 
#  Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general
 
# Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL
 
  
 +
Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
  
  ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
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# 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products.
# Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.  
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# Nov monthly meeting: Rick will set up a presentation
# Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?
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# Topics of the presentations based on audiences
# Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?
+
## What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities;
# Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
+
## Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
# Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks
+
## What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
# Using the cloud , where we will be going
+
## JPL : Big data in the cloud computing
# Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members
 
  
 +
A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
  
  Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
+
# Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing
 +
# After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
 +
# Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon
 +
# Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
 +
# Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.
 +
# Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
 +
# Summarize the discussion, and talk again next  monthly meeting
  
# 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products.
 
# Nov monthly meeting
 
##  Rick will set up a presentation
 
# Topics of the presentations based on audiences
 
What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities;
 
e.g., Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
 
What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
 
JPL : Big data in the cloud computing
 
  
  A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
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Activities outside biannual meeting.
  
a. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing
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# data.gov type of services.
b. After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to  fill in the wish lists
 
c. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon
 
d. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
 
e. Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.
 
f. Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
 
g. Summarize the discussion, and talk again next  monthly meeting
 
  
  
#  Activities outside biannual meeting.
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Other relevant topics
 
 
a. data.gov type of services.
 
 
 
 
 
Other relevant topics
 

Latest revision as of 23:19, July 26, 2012

Oct 24, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon

  1. Participants: Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey
  2. Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang
  3. Supportor: Qunying Huang
  4. Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
  5. Attendee access code: 23133897#


Agenda

  1. Cluster objective, communication recap.(website, email list, etc)
  2. Winter meeting cloud session plan.(3 put in)
  3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed
  4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
  5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
  6. Activities outside biannual meeting.
  7. Other relevant topics


Note:


Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc).

  1. Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
  2. Brian: Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
  3. Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
    1. To register in the email list, use the following link: http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
    2. Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
  4. Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month
    1. Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder)
  5. Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve


Winter meeting cloud session plan

  1. P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines.
  2. Sessions: 2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers,
  3. Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker
  4. Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers
  5. Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general
  6. Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL


ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed

  1. Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do.
  2. Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing?
  3. Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it?
  4. Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed
  5. Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks
  6. Using the cloud , where we will be going
  7. Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members


Webinar cloud presentations by companies.

  1. 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products.
  2. Nov monthly meeting: Rick will set up a presentation
  3. Topics of the presentations based on audiences
    1. What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities;
    2. Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session
    3. What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage?
    4. JPL : Big data in the cloud computing

A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.

  1. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing
  2. After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
  3. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon
  4. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources
  5. Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself.
  6. Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users.
  7. Summarize the discussion, and talk again next monthly meeting


Activities outside biannual meeting.

  1. data.gov type of services.


Other relevant topics