Difference between revisions of "Discovery Telecon 2012-04-10"
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
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+ | * Anyone: Add your OpenSearch service to the list of servers! | ||
+ | * Chris: Put out poll for DCP-4 at the end of the meeting | ||
+ | * Ruth: Write up NSIDCs solution for valid parameter values for DCP-5 | ||
+ | * More detailed planning for the hack-a-thon (logistics/follow-up/etc.) | ||
+ | * Think about offering a VM that people can use to deploy Discovery technologies | ||
== Previous Action Items == | == Previous Action Items == | ||
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* Hook will continue to tweak DCP-7 before voting | * Hook will continue to tweak DCP-7 before voting | ||
− | == Planning for the ESIP Meeting == | + | == Planning for the ESIP Summer Meeting == |
− | + | ||
+ | * Not necessarily bad for Discovery to have limited sessions | ||
+ | ** We don't need as much planning,better to integrate across sessions | ||
+ | * Need to collect participants at the Discovery cluster meetings | ||
+ | * Try to gauge what people are interested in through polling | ||
+ | * Get the code written during the hack-a-thon to become "community property" | ||
+ | ** Could use GitHub | ||
+ | ** Have slides showing how to checkout/checkin code | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Brokering and Beyond - A glimpse at the Future of Global Data Sharing === | ||
+ | * Related to Discovery (overview of the concept of brokering) | ||
+ | * More closely aligned with ESC | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Discovery Hack-a-Thon === | ||
+ | * Done a lot of work deploying services and working on standards | ||
+ | * Last "missing link" is how to enable more clients to actually use services | ||
+ | * Presenting a few "low-hanging fruit" ways of accessing services | ||
+ | ** Shell script w/ wget/curl | ||
+ | ** XSLT | ||
+ | * Idea is to show people how easy it is to access discovery services | ||
+ | * Ruth: Could it also be about the server-side? What about: "This is all you have to do to service-cast your data" | ||
+ | * Would also include time for the testbed. | ||
+ | ** Want people tinkering with the testbed | ||
+ | * Need to have mentors / teachers for each area | ||
+ | ** Should there be a Perl area, Python area, CSS/XSLT, etc. | ||
+ | * Designate some points of contact for after the session | ||
+ | * Put together a resources page for each "dialect" of the hack-a-thon | ||
+ | ** Also can throw together a presentation for each | ||
+ | ** Ideally, people would be able to bring something home with them | ||
+ | * Ruth could mentor for NSIDC's services / casting tools (at the simple level) | ||
+ | * Email list if you have an OpenSearch service you want to develop clients for | ||
+ | * Thomas could mentor Python | ||
+ | * Some would want to see more "enterprise-level" clients, like Java | ||
+ | * Could give a Groovy example for Java developers | ||
+ | * Best if there were multiple services to test clients on | ||
+ | ** Revisit / update the list of OpenSearch services | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Metadata Casting for Data, Services, & Events/Topics === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Talking about casting standards | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Open Source Software evaluation - ESRI's Geoportal Usability Test === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Some discussion of OpenSearch when reporting usability | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Discovery Planning Session - Need to be added? === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Can this be merged with Brian's Metadata Casting? | ||
+ | * Could do a planning meeting on a telecon | ||
+ | * A lot of the things we are doing for Discovery are overlapping with ESC | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | === ESIP Testbed: Encouraging Technology Innovation for Earth Science === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * There will be an update from ESRI on discovery testbed performance | ||
+ | |||
== Update on DCPs== | == Update on DCPs== | ||
− | * DCP- | + | === DCP-4 === |
− | * DCP-5 | + | |
− | * DCP-6 | + | * See [[Discovery Change Proposals]] |
+ | * This was not merged with DCP-7/8 | ||
+ | * Chris will put out poll for this, action item noted | ||
+ | |||
+ | === DCP-5 === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Is Ruth's group interested in writing DCP-5? | ||
+ | ** Ruth's not sure that someone is writing this up | ||
+ | * Since there are no better ideas, Ruth will write up NSIDCs solution to this | ||
+ | |||
+ | === DCP-6 === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * This DCP only got 5 votes. | ||
+ | * Chris could have sent out more nag messages | ||
+ | |||
+ | === DCP-7 === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Hook says this is ready for vote | ||
+ | * Hook will be posting the link to the poll | ||
+ | * Polls should be posted on the cluster announcement page | ||
+ | |||
+ | === DCP-8? === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Brian's generalization of the OPeNDAP links (DCP-4) | ||
+ | * Not sure when this will be done | ||
==Discovery Testbed== | ==Discovery Testbed== | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Amazon Testbed === | ||
+ | * Testbed might be available through Amazon | ||
+ | * There isn't a specific way to deploying a testbed | ||
+ | ** Erin was happy to have ESRI be the guinea pigs for deploying a testbed | ||
+ | * Will be setting up a vanilla GeoPortal on Amazon | ||
+ | * Some outstanding questions: | ||
+ | ** How much does it cost? | ||
+ | ** How to give people access / logins? | ||
+ | ** .... | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Contributing to GeoPortal === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * The way to test use cases is to submit services to the GeoPortal | ||
+ | * There were people interested in developing | ||
+ | ** Products and Services team suggested GitHub for SCM | ||
+ | ** Speak up soon if you don't like GitHub! | ||
+ | ** Procedure: Post changes to GitHub and ESRI will test this | ||
+ | * Looking for people willing to test GeoPortal and report bugs / things they don't like | ||
+ | * Looking for people willing to document | ||
+ | * Send Christine your URLs to OpenSearch and data/service casts | ||
+ | * GeoPortal has various roles | ||
+ | ** need to identify people to approve content | ||
+ | ** a technical PoC for Amazon problems | ||
+ | |||
+ | === GeoPortal in Summer Meeting === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * GeoPortal may be relevant to Chris Mattmann's open source sessions | ||
+ | ** reply to Chris's request for presentations | ||
+ | * Talk to Steve Brody for information about the broker session | ||
+ | * There may be a "GeoPortal corner" at the Discovery Hack-a-Thon | ||
+ | ** Dedicating 25 minutes may not be possible | ||
+ | * ESRI can get a list of Discovery services from the same page being used for the Hack-a-Thon | ||
== "Relax NG" Validator Service== | == "Relax NG" Validator Service== | ||
+ | * Brian is not on the telecon, so this is being pushed to the next telecon |
Latest revision as of 14:56, April 10, 2012
Discovery Telecon
Attendees
- Chris Lynnes
- Hook Hua
- Christine White
- Eric Rozell
- Thomas Huang
- Nga Chung
- Ruth Duerr
Action Items
- Anyone: Add your OpenSearch service to the list of servers!
- Chris: Put out poll for DCP-4 at the end of the meeting
- Ruth: Write up NSIDCs solution for valid parameter values for DCP-5
- More detailed planning for the hack-a-thon (logistics/follow-up/etc.)
- Think about offering a VM that people can use to deploy Discovery technologies
Previous Action Items
- Chris or Hook will deprecate DCP-2 and DCP-3 on DCP page
- Brian will work on generalized version of DCP-4 (Pedro will contribute examples for WxS)
- Chris will send out Doodle poll for DCP-4
- James will update examples for DCP-4 with details and additional examples (also include all the different OPeNDAP MIME types) (also, try to use real links) (also put an example with a "length" attribute)
- All review DCP-6 if interested (only a few hours left!)
- Hook will continue to tweak DCP-7 before voting
Planning for the ESIP Summer Meeting
- Not necessarily bad for Discovery to have limited sessions
- We don't need as much planning,better to integrate across sessions
- Need to collect participants at the Discovery cluster meetings
- Try to gauge what people are interested in through polling
- Get the code written during the hack-a-thon to become "community property"
- Could use GitHub
- Have slides showing how to checkout/checkin code
Brokering and Beyond - A glimpse at the Future of Global Data Sharing
- Related to Discovery (overview of the concept of brokering)
- More closely aligned with ESC
Discovery Hack-a-Thon
- Done a lot of work deploying services and working on standards
- Last "missing link" is how to enable more clients to actually use services
- Presenting a few "low-hanging fruit" ways of accessing services
- Shell script w/ wget/curl
- XSLT
- Idea is to show people how easy it is to access discovery services
- Ruth: Could it also be about the server-side? What about: "This is all you have to do to service-cast your data"
- Would also include time for the testbed.
- Want people tinkering with the testbed
- Need to have mentors / teachers for each area
- Should there be a Perl area, Python area, CSS/XSLT, etc.
- Designate some points of contact for after the session
- Put together a resources page for each "dialect" of the hack-a-thon
- Also can throw together a presentation for each
- Ideally, people would be able to bring something home with them
- Ruth could mentor for NSIDC's services / casting tools (at the simple level)
- Email list if you have an OpenSearch service you want to develop clients for
- Thomas could mentor Python
- Some would want to see more "enterprise-level" clients, like Java
- Could give a Groovy example for Java developers
- Best if there were multiple services to test clients on
- Revisit / update the list of OpenSearch services
Metadata Casting for Data, Services, & Events/Topics
- Talking about casting standards
Open Source Software evaluation - ESRI's Geoportal Usability Test
- Some discussion of OpenSearch when reporting usability
Discovery Planning Session - Need to be added?
- Can this be merged with Brian's Metadata Casting?
- Could do a planning meeting on a telecon
- A lot of the things we are doing for Discovery are overlapping with ESC
ESIP Testbed: Encouraging Technology Innovation for Earth Science
- There will be an update from ESRI on discovery testbed performance
Update on DCPs
DCP-4
- See Discovery Change Proposals
- This was not merged with DCP-7/8
- Chris will put out poll for this, action item noted
DCP-5
- Is Ruth's group interested in writing DCP-5?
- Ruth's not sure that someone is writing this up
- Since there are no better ideas, Ruth will write up NSIDCs solution to this
DCP-6
- This DCP only got 5 votes.
- Chris could have sent out more nag messages
DCP-7
- Hook says this is ready for vote
- Hook will be posting the link to the poll
- Polls should be posted on the cluster announcement page
DCP-8?
- Brian's generalization of the OPeNDAP links (DCP-4)
- Not sure when this will be done
Discovery Testbed
Amazon Testbed
- Testbed might be available through Amazon
- There isn't a specific way to deploying a testbed
- Erin was happy to have ESRI be the guinea pigs for deploying a testbed
- Will be setting up a vanilla GeoPortal on Amazon
- Some outstanding questions:
- How much does it cost?
- How to give people access / logins?
- ....
Contributing to GeoPortal
- The way to test use cases is to submit services to the GeoPortal
- There were people interested in developing
- Products and Services team suggested GitHub for SCM
- Speak up soon if you don't like GitHub!
- Procedure: Post changes to GitHub and ESRI will test this
- Looking for people willing to test GeoPortal and report bugs / things they don't like
- Looking for people willing to document
- Send Christine your URLs to OpenSearch and data/service casts
- GeoPortal has various roles
- need to identify people to approve content
- a technical PoC for Amazon problems
GeoPortal in Summer Meeting
- GeoPortal may be relevant to Chris Mattmann's open source sessions
- reply to Chris's request for presentations
- Talk to Steve Brody for information about the broker session
- There may be a "GeoPortal corner" at the Discovery Hack-a-Thon
- Dedicating 25 minutes may not be possible
- ESRI can get a list of Discovery services from the same page being used for the Hack-a-Thon
"Relax NG" Validator Service
- Brian is not on the telecon, so this is being pushed to the next telecon