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* Tuesday, October 11, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT | * Tuesday, October 11, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT | ||
* WebEx Info: | * WebEx Info: | ||
− | ** Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877- | + | ** Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493 |
** Attendee access code: 231 407 50 | ** Attendee access code: 231 407 50 | ||
** To start the online portion of the Personal Conference meeting , go to https://esipfed.webex.com/mw0306ld/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=esipfed&service=1 and select the Discovery Cluster meeting. | ** To start the online portion of the Personal Conference meeting , go to https://esipfed.webex.com/mw0306ld/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=esipfed&service=1 and select the Discovery Cluster meeting. | ||
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== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
− | + | * Chris Lynnes | |
+ | * Christine White | ||
+ | * Erin Robinson | ||
+ | * James Gallagher | ||
+ | * Bob Downs | ||
+ | * Eric Rozell | ||
+ | * Ken Keiser | ||
+ | * Christine White | ||
+ | * Hook Hua | ||
+ | * Ruth Duerr | ||
+ | * Brian Wilson | ||
+ | * Call-in User 6 | ||
+ | * Call-in User 8 | ||
+ | * Call-in User 9 | ||
== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
=== EarthCube white paper status and plan === | === EarthCube white paper status and plan === | ||
+ | Since last month's Discovery and ESC telecons, there have been some new | ||
+ | information on the whitepaper posted: | ||
+ | http://earthcube.ning.com/profiles/blogs/announcement-please-post-your-whitepapers | ||
+ | |||
+ | Also, we can see the white papers submitted so far: | ||
+ | http://earthcube.ning.com/page/background-reading | ||
+ | |||
+ | Hook had signed up to finished the governance section (just posted). | ||
+ | |||
+ | There is longer version: | ||
+ | http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper#Governance_-_Hook | ||
+ | |||
+ | And a shorter version: | ||
+ | http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper_Short#Technical_Governance | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Meeting Notes ==== | ||
+ | * Mark Parsons made major revisions (we weren't really following the charette call) | ||
+ | * Chris: are we ready to submit the whitepaper? | ||
+ | ** Hook: can look at others submissions on the EarthCube website, most other submissions were closer to 10 pages | ||
+ | ** Bob made minor revisions this morning ("wordsmithing") | ||
+ | ** Does the sign on statement mean you agree or made modifications, sign to larger or smaller? | ||
+ | *** Signing means you agree, sign to smaller section | ||
+ | ** Should try to get the whitepaper in this week | ||
+ | ** ACTION ITEM: Ruth will submit whitepaper | ||
+ | ** What's the best way to submit? | ||
+ | *** Create PDF or link to wiki? | ||
+ | *** One person linked to Google Doc. | ||
+ | ** All minor changes should be made by 4 MST Wednesday Oct 12, 2011 | ||
+ | * To sign the document: an asterisk (for bullet) and insert 4 tildas at the bottom of wiki page | ||
+ | * Who will present the whitepaper? | ||
+ | ** The following cannot present: Chris, Ruth, Hook, Brian | ||
+ | ** The following may be attending: (Erin or Carol), Christine, Rahul | ||
+ | * Where is the charrette? | ||
+ | ** Arlington | ||
=== Plans for awarded Discovery Testbed implementation === | === Plans for awarded Discovery Testbed implementation === | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Meeting Notes ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Discovery cluster submitted testbed to ESIP Products and Services committee | ||
+ | ** Awarded to ESRI, lead by Christine White | ||
+ | |||
+ | * What could ESRI do that would be useful for the ESIP discovery cluster? | ||
+ | ** What are the goals? | ||
+ | ** What are the success criteria? | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Christine can present status/progress at Winter Meeting | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Solicitation was about... | ||
+ | ** Testbed for interoperability testing | ||
+ | ** Used for advertising ESIP community services | ||
+ | ** Services to data broker (identifies services that are compatible with data) ("Icing on the cake") | ||
+ | |||
+ | * ESRI's response: | ||
+ | ** Responded to 3 of the tasks, selected for task 2 | ||
+ | ** using open source GeoPortal server software as a base | ||
+ | *** can be extended/modified/etc. without concern | ||
+ | ** Some of the RFP features are available out of the box (GeoRSS/Atom results) | ||
+ | ** Development would be useful for orgs outside of ESIP | ||
+ | ** the hours of the project will be billed for conversations with ESIP, development will be paid for by ESRI | ||
+ | ** ESRI gets first-hand information/use cases for developing this data portal | ||
+ | ** Cluster gets a useful testbed for advertising services/datasets, etc. for RFP | ||
+ | |||
+ | * What sort of impact should the RFP have on Discovery Cluster? What can be coordinated by ESRI? | ||
+ | ** Anyone using GeoPortal automatically cast datasets? | ||
+ | *** All providers using GeoPortal can be aggregated using data casting standards. | ||
+ | ** Is it possible to get "automatic" casting from GeoPortal? | ||
+ | ** Ruth clarifies casting from GeoPortal. | ||
+ | |||
+ | * What is the best way for cluster to collaborate with ESRI? | ||
+ | ** Ruth: NSIDC can talk to ESRI about what the GeoPortal should have (i.e., casting capabilities) | ||
+ | ** Hook: what about the OpenSearch front-end, GeoPortal has uses OpenSearch... | ||
+ | ** Chris: seeking a "standing" server where people can write and test OpenSearch clients | ||
+ | ** Christine: GeoPortal can be used to register data and services, it can also be an endpoint for testing clients | ||
+ | ** Chris: would the GeoPortal server respond to OpenSearch request | ||
+ | *** Christine: it should | ||
+ | ** GeoPortal is not the interface at geoportal.org | ||
+ | ** Hook: suggests a starting point - a place for community members to register OpenSearch services, casting services, etc. | ||
+ | *** GeoPortal can be used to register and search services | ||
+ | ** Christine offered to give a demo of a "vanilla" GeoPortal server | ||
+ | *** '''This can be a topic of next month's telecon.''' | ||
+ | ** Christine will coordinate with Hook and Brian to produce an interesting demo | ||
+ | |||
+ | * What is the timeline for the work? | ||
+ | ** ESRI is flexible on the timeline (response was to have work completed within one year) | ||
+ | |||
+ | * What are the success criteria? | ||
+ | ** | ||
+ | |||
+ | ESRI GeoPortal Source: [http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/geoportal/index.html] | ||
=== ESIP 2012 Winter session planning === | === ESIP 2012 Winter session planning === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * What are the Discovery Cluster topics? | ||
+ | ** One topic may be a recap of the charrette, joint breakout of discovery and ESC | ||
+ | ** Basic planning meeting, to plan goals for the next six months | ||
+ | *** Discuss plans for moving forward on the testbed | ||
+ | ** Workshop/breakout for GeoPortal demo or progress report | ||
+ | ** Need titles, main speakers, short abstract by next week for scheduling a winter meeting session | ||
+ | * Proposed Sessions | ||
+ | ** a face-to-face meeting for wrapping up DCPs | ||
+ | *** New DCPs | ||
+ | **** DCP for error handling not discussed (but it is implied for OpenSearch to use HTTP error codes) | ||
+ | ** Casting demos | ||
+ | *** The theme is collaboration, how can casting/discovery conventions support collaboration | ||
+ | *** Ruth will be able to show next step beyond July demo (aggregating casts from distributed sources, making available to portal using OpenSearch) | ||
+ | *** Need to focus on demos/use cases that align with collaboration theme | ||
+ | ** Part of planning session: What are the implications for discovery conventions in the ESC? | ||
+ | *** How do we move forward on a more collaborative discovery cluster? | ||
+ | *** How can the discovery services meet the requirements of the ESC? (joint-session with ESC) | ||
+ | * Winter meeting is shorter, so not as much time for demos/workshops | ||
+ | * The ESRI demo/participation in Winter Meeting will be coordinated by the Discovery cluster | ||
+ | * ACTION ITEM: Submit the abstracts for the Winter Meeting sessions | ||
=== DCP-3 === | === DCP-3 === | ||
+ | [[Discovery_Change_Proposal-3]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Is the Discovery cluster defining the "types" that are allowable? | ||
+ | ** the convention should be totally open, no constraints on what values are used | ||
+ | * Using plurals to differentiate collections of data and services vs. individual services | ||
+ | ** use "serviceCast" and "collectionCast" instead of "collections" and "services" | ||
+ | * Should differentiate between data available from FTP and data offered through OPeNDAP | ||
+ | * Anyone can add examples to the wiki | ||
+ | * What about structured metadata file? | ||
+ | ** What's the metadata format (ISO would be an example)? | ||
+ | * Add example for OpenSearch Description Document (has its own mime/type) |
Latest revision as of 04:30, September 13, 2012
<< Back to the Discovery Telecons page
- Tuesday, October 11, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT
- WebEx Info:
- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
- Attendee access code: 231 407 50
- To start the online portion of the Personal Conference meeting , go to https://esipfed.webex.com/mw0306ld/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=esipfed&service=1 and select the Discovery Cluster meeting.
Action Items
Attendees
- Chris Lynnes
- Christine White
- Erin Robinson
- James Gallagher
- Bob Downs
- Eric Rozell
- Ken Keiser
- Christine White
- Hook Hua
- Ruth Duerr
- Brian Wilson
- Call-in User 6
- Call-in User 8
- Call-in User 9
Notes
EarthCube white paper status and plan
Since last month's Discovery and ESC telecons, there have been some new information on the whitepaper posted: http://earthcube.ning.com/profiles/blogs/announcement-please-post-your-whitepapers
Also, we can see the white papers submitted so far: http://earthcube.ning.com/page/background-reading
Hook had signed up to finished the governance section (just posted).
There is longer version: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper#Governance_-_Hook
And a shorter version: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper_Short#Technical_Governance
Meeting Notes
- Mark Parsons made major revisions (we weren't really following the charette call)
- Chris: are we ready to submit the whitepaper?
- Hook: can look at others submissions on the EarthCube website, most other submissions were closer to 10 pages
- Bob made minor revisions this morning ("wordsmithing")
- Does the sign on statement mean you agree or made modifications, sign to larger or smaller?
- Signing means you agree, sign to smaller section
- Should try to get the whitepaper in this week
- ACTION ITEM: Ruth will submit whitepaper
- What's the best way to submit?
- Create PDF or link to wiki?
- One person linked to Google Doc.
- All minor changes should be made by 4 MST Wednesday Oct 12, 2011
- To sign the document: an asterisk (for bullet) and insert 4 tildas at the bottom of wiki page
- Who will present the whitepaper?
- The following cannot present: Chris, Ruth, Hook, Brian
- The following may be attending: (Erin or Carol), Christine, Rahul
- Where is the charrette?
- Arlington
Plans for awarded Discovery Testbed implementation
Meeting Notes
- Discovery cluster submitted testbed to ESIP Products and Services committee
- Awarded to ESRI, lead by Christine White
- What could ESRI do that would be useful for the ESIP discovery cluster?
- What are the goals?
- What are the success criteria?
- Christine can present status/progress at Winter Meeting
- Solicitation was about...
- Testbed for interoperability testing
- Used for advertising ESIP community services
- Services to data broker (identifies services that are compatible with data) ("Icing on the cake")
- ESRI's response:
- Responded to 3 of the tasks, selected for task 2
- using open source GeoPortal server software as a base
- can be extended/modified/etc. without concern
- Some of the RFP features are available out of the box (GeoRSS/Atom results)
- Development would be useful for orgs outside of ESIP
- the hours of the project will be billed for conversations with ESIP, development will be paid for by ESRI
- ESRI gets first-hand information/use cases for developing this data portal
- Cluster gets a useful testbed for advertising services/datasets, etc. for RFP
- What sort of impact should the RFP have on Discovery Cluster? What can be coordinated by ESRI?
- Anyone using GeoPortal automatically cast datasets?
- All providers using GeoPortal can be aggregated using data casting standards.
- Is it possible to get "automatic" casting from GeoPortal?
- Ruth clarifies casting from GeoPortal.
- Anyone using GeoPortal automatically cast datasets?
- What is the best way for cluster to collaborate with ESRI?
- Ruth: NSIDC can talk to ESRI about what the GeoPortal should have (i.e., casting capabilities)
- Hook: what about the OpenSearch front-end, GeoPortal has uses OpenSearch...
- Chris: seeking a "standing" server where people can write and test OpenSearch clients
- Christine: GeoPortal can be used to register data and services, it can also be an endpoint for testing clients
- Chris: would the GeoPortal server respond to OpenSearch request
- Christine: it should
- GeoPortal is not the interface at geoportal.org
- Hook: suggests a starting point - a place for community members to register OpenSearch services, casting services, etc.
- GeoPortal can be used to register and search services
- Christine offered to give a demo of a "vanilla" GeoPortal server
- This can be a topic of next month's telecon.
- Christine will coordinate with Hook and Brian to produce an interesting demo
- What is the timeline for the work?
- ESRI is flexible on the timeline (response was to have work completed within one year)
- What are the success criteria?
ESRI GeoPortal Source: [1]
ESIP 2012 Winter session planning
- What are the Discovery Cluster topics?
- One topic may be a recap of the charrette, joint breakout of discovery and ESC
- Basic planning meeting, to plan goals for the next six months
- Discuss plans for moving forward on the testbed
- Workshop/breakout for GeoPortal demo or progress report
- Need titles, main speakers, short abstract by next week for scheduling a winter meeting session
- Proposed Sessions
- a face-to-face meeting for wrapping up DCPs
- New DCPs
- DCP for error handling not discussed (but it is implied for OpenSearch to use HTTP error codes)
- New DCPs
- Casting demos
- The theme is collaboration, how can casting/discovery conventions support collaboration
- Ruth will be able to show next step beyond July demo (aggregating casts from distributed sources, making available to portal using OpenSearch)
- Need to focus on demos/use cases that align with collaboration theme
- Part of planning session: What are the implications for discovery conventions in the ESC?
- How do we move forward on a more collaborative discovery cluster?
- How can the discovery services meet the requirements of the ESC? (joint-session with ESC)
- a face-to-face meeting for wrapping up DCPs
- Winter meeting is shorter, so not as much time for demos/workshops
- The ESRI demo/participation in Winter Meeting will be coordinated by the Discovery cluster
- ACTION ITEM: Submit the abstracts for the Winter Meeting sessions
DCP-3
- Is the Discovery cluster defining the "types" that are allowable?
- the convention should be totally open, no constraints on what values are used
- Using plurals to differentiate collections of data and services vs. individual services
- use "serviceCast" and "collectionCast" instead of "collections" and "services"
- Should differentiate between data available from FTP and data offered through OPeNDAP
- Anyone can add examples to the wiki
- What about structured metadata file?
- What's the metadata format (ISO would be an example)?
- Add example for OpenSearch Description Document (has its own mime/type)