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* Tuesday, October 11, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT
 
* Tuesday, October 11, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT
 
* WebEx Info:
 
* WebEx Info:
** Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-669-3239
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** Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493
 
** Attendee access code: 231 407 50
 
** Attendee access code: 231 407 50
** To start the online portion of the Personal Conference meeting , go to https://esipfed.webex.com/mw0306ld/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=esipfed&service=1
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** To start the online portion of the Personal Conference meeting , go to https://esipfed.webex.com/mw0306ld/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=esipfed&service=1 and select the Discovery Cluster meeting.
  
 
== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
  
 
== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
 
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* Chris Lynnes
 +
* Christine White
 +
* Erin Robinson
 +
* James Gallagher
 +
* Bob Downs
 +
* Eric Rozell
 +
* Ken Keiser
 +
* Christine White
 +
* Hook Hua
 +
* Ruth Duerr
 +
* Brian Wilson
 +
* Call-in User 6
 +
* Call-in User 8
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* Call-in User 9
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
  
 
=== EarthCube white paper status and plan ===
 
=== EarthCube white paper status and plan ===
 +
Since last month's Discovery and ESC telecons, there have been some new
 +
information on the whitepaper posted:
 +
http://earthcube.ning.com/profiles/blogs/announcement-please-post-your-whitepapers
 +
 +
Also, we can see the white papers submitted so far:
 +
http://earthcube.ning.com/page/background-reading
 +
 +
Hook had signed up to finished the governance section (just posted).
 +
 +
There is longer version:
 +
http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper#Governance_-_Hook
 +
 +
And a shorter version:
 +
http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper_Short#Technical_Governance
 +
 +
==== Meeting Notes ====
 +
* Mark Parsons made major revisions (we weren't really following the charette call)
 +
* Chris: are we ready to submit the whitepaper?
 +
** Hook: can look at others submissions on the EarthCube website, most other submissions were closer to 10 pages
 +
** Bob made minor revisions this morning ("wordsmithing")
 +
** Does the sign on statement mean you agree or made modifications, sign to larger or smaller?
 +
***  Signing means you agree, sign to smaller section
 +
** Should try to get the whitepaper in this week
 +
** ACTION ITEM: Ruth will submit whitepaper
 +
** What's the best way to submit?
 +
*** Create PDF or link to wiki?
 +
*** One person linked to Google Doc.
 +
** All minor changes should be made by 4 MST Wednesday Oct 12, 2011
 +
* To sign the document: an asterisk (for bullet) and insert 4 tildas at the bottom of wiki page
 +
* Who will present the whitepaper?
 +
** The following cannot present: Chris, Ruth, Hook, Brian
 +
** The following may be attending: (Erin or Carol), Christine, Rahul
 +
* Where is the charrette?
 +
** Arlington
  
 
=== Plans for awarded Discovery Testbed implementation ===
 
=== Plans for awarded Discovery Testbed implementation ===
 +
 +
==== Meeting Notes ====
 +
 +
* Discovery cluster submitted testbed to ESIP Products and Services committee
 +
** Awarded to ESRI, lead by Christine White
 +
 +
* What could ESRI do that would be useful for the ESIP discovery cluster?
 +
** What are the goals?
 +
** What are the success criteria?
 +
 +
* Christine can present status/progress at Winter Meeting
 +
 +
* Solicitation was about...
 +
** Testbed for interoperability testing
 +
** Used for advertising ESIP community services
 +
** Services to data broker (identifies services that are compatible with data) ("Icing on the cake")
 +
 +
* ESRI's response:
 +
** Responded to 3 of the tasks, selected for task 2
 +
** using open source GeoPortal server software as a base
 +
*** can be extended/modified/etc. without concern
 +
** Some of the RFP features are available out of the box (GeoRSS/Atom results)
 +
** Development would be useful for orgs outside of ESIP
 +
** the hours of the project will be billed for conversations with ESIP, development will be paid for by ESRI
 +
** ESRI gets first-hand information/use cases for developing this data portal
 +
** Cluster gets a useful testbed for advertising services/datasets, etc. for RFP
 +
 +
* What sort of impact should the RFP have on Discovery Cluster? What can be coordinated by ESRI?
 +
** Anyone using GeoPortal automatically cast datasets?
 +
*** All providers using GeoPortal can be aggregated using data casting standards.
 +
** Is it possible to get "automatic" casting from GeoPortal?
 +
** Ruth clarifies casting from GeoPortal.
 +
 +
* What is the best way for cluster to collaborate with ESRI?
 +
** Ruth: NSIDC can talk to ESRI about what the GeoPortal should have (i.e., casting capabilities)
 +
** Hook: what about the OpenSearch front-end, GeoPortal has uses OpenSearch...
 +
** Chris: seeking a "standing" server where people can write and test OpenSearch clients
 +
** Christine: GeoPortal can be used to register data and services, it can also be an endpoint for testing clients
 +
** Chris: would the GeoPortal server respond to OpenSearch request
 +
*** Christine: it should
 +
** GeoPortal is not the interface at geoportal.org
 +
** Hook: suggests a starting point - a place for community members to register OpenSearch services, casting services, etc.
 +
*** GeoPortal can be used to register and search services
 +
** Christine offered to give a demo of a "vanilla" GeoPortal server
 +
*** '''This can be a topic of next month's telecon.'''
 +
** Christine will coordinate with Hook and Brian to produce an interesting demo
 +
 +
* What is the timeline for the work?
 +
** ESRI is flexible on the timeline (response was to have work completed within one year)
 +
 +
* What are the success criteria?
 +
**
 +
 +
ESRI GeoPortal Source: [http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/geoportal/index.html]
  
 
=== ESIP 2012 Winter session planning ===
 
=== ESIP 2012 Winter session planning ===
 +
 +
* What are the Discovery Cluster topics?
 +
** One topic may be a recap of the charrette, joint breakout of discovery and ESC
 +
** Basic planning meeting, to plan goals for the next six months
 +
*** Discuss plans for moving forward on the testbed
 +
** Workshop/breakout for GeoPortal demo or progress report
 +
** Need titles, main speakers, short abstract by next week for scheduling a winter meeting session
 +
* Proposed Sessions
 +
** a face-to-face meeting for wrapping up DCPs
 +
*** New DCPs
 +
**** DCP for error handling not discussed (but it is implied for OpenSearch to use HTTP error codes)
 +
** Casting demos
 +
*** The theme is collaboration, how can casting/discovery conventions support collaboration
 +
*** Ruth will be able to show next step beyond July demo (aggregating casts from distributed sources, making available to portal using OpenSearch)
 +
*** Need to focus on demos/use cases that align with collaboration theme
 +
** Part of planning session: What are the implications for discovery conventions in the ESC?
 +
*** How do we move forward on a more collaborative discovery cluster?
 +
*** How can the discovery services meet the requirements of the ESC? (joint-session with ESC)
 +
* Winter meeting is shorter, so not as much time for demos/workshops
 +
* The ESRI demo/participation in Winter Meeting will be coordinated by the Discovery cluster
 +
* ACTION ITEM: Submit the abstracts for the Winter Meeting sessions
  
 
=== DCP-3 ===
 
=== DCP-3 ===
 +
[[Discovery_Change_Proposal-3]]
 +
 +
* Is the Discovery cluster defining the "types" that are allowable?
 +
** the convention should be totally open, no constraints on what values are used
 +
* Using plurals to differentiate collections of data and services vs. individual services
 +
** use "serviceCast" and "collectionCast" instead of "collections" and "services"
 +
* Should differentiate between data available from FTP and data offered through OPeNDAP
 +
* Anyone can add examples to the wiki
 +
* What about structured metadata file?
 +
** What's the metadata format (ISO would be an example)?
 +
* Add example for OpenSearch Description Document (has its own mime/type)

Latest revision as of 04:30, September 13, 2012

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Action Items

Attendees

  • Chris Lynnes
  • Christine White
  • Erin Robinson
  • James Gallagher
  • Bob Downs
  • Eric Rozell
  • Ken Keiser
  • Christine White
  • Hook Hua
  • Ruth Duerr
  • Brian Wilson
  • Call-in User 6
  • Call-in User 8
  • Call-in User 9

Notes

EarthCube white paper status and plan

Since last month's Discovery and ESC telecons, there have been some new information on the whitepaper posted: http://earthcube.ning.com/profiles/blogs/announcement-please-post-your-whitepapers

Also, we can see the white papers submitted so far: http://earthcube.ning.com/page/background-reading

Hook had signed up to finished the governance section (just posted).

There is longer version: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper#Governance_-_Hook

And a shorter version: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_White_Paper_Short#Technical_Governance

Meeting Notes

  • Mark Parsons made major revisions (we weren't really following the charette call)
  • Chris: are we ready to submit the whitepaper?
    • Hook: can look at others submissions on the EarthCube website, most other submissions were closer to 10 pages
    • Bob made minor revisions this morning ("wordsmithing")
    • Does the sign on statement mean you agree or made modifications, sign to larger or smaller?
      • Signing means you agree, sign to smaller section
    • Should try to get the whitepaper in this week
    • ACTION ITEM: Ruth will submit whitepaper
    • What's the best way to submit?
      • Create PDF or link to wiki?
      • One person linked to Google Doc.
    • All minor changes should be made by 4 MST Wednesday Oct 12, 2011
  • To sign the document: an asterisk (for bullet) and insert 4 tildas at the bottom of wiki page
  • Who will present the whitepaper?
    • The following cannot present: Chris, Ruth, Hook, Brian
    • The following may be attending: (Erin or Carol), Christine, Rahul
  • Where is the charrette?
    • Arlington

Plans for awarded Discovery Testbed implementation

Meeting Notes

  • Discovery cluster submitted testbed to ESIP Products and Services committee
    • Awarded to ESRI, lead by Christine White
  • What could ESRI do that would be useful for the ESIP discovery cluster?
    • What are the goals?
    • What are the success criteria?
  • Christine can present status/progress at Winter Meeting
  • Solicitation was about...
    • Testbed for interoperability testing
    • Used for advertising ESIP community services
    • Services to data broker (identifies services that are compatible with data) ("Icing on the cake")
  • ESRI's response:
    • Responded to 3 of the tasks, selected for task 2
    • using open source GeoPortal server software as a base
      • can be extended/modified/etc. without concern
    • Some of the RFP features are available out of the box (GeoRSS/Atom results)
    • Development would be useful for orgs outside of ESIP
    • the hours of the project will be billed for conversations with ESIP, development will be paid for by ESRI
    • ESRI gets first-hand information/use cases for developing this data portal
    • Cluster gets a useful testbed for advertising services/datasets, etc. for RFP
  • What sort of impact should the RFP have on Discovery Cluster? What can be coordinated by ESRI?
    • Anyone using GeoPortal automatically cast datasets?
      • All providers using GeoPortal can be aggregated using data casting standards.
    • Is it possible to get "automatic" casting from GeoPortal?
    • Ruth clarifies casting from GeoPortal.
  • What is the best way for cluster to collaborate with ESRI?
    • Ruth: NSIDC can talk to ESRI about what the GeoPortal should have (i.e., casting capabilities)
    • Hook: what about the OpenSearch front-end, GeoPortal has uses OpenSearch...
    • Chris: seeking a "standing" server where people can write and test OpenSearch clients
    • Christine: GeoPortal can be used to register data and services, it can also be an endpoint for testing clients
    • Chris: would the GeoPortal server respond to OpenSearch request
      • Christine: it should
    • GeoPortal is not the interface at geoportal.org
    • Hook: suggests a starting point - a place for community members to register OpenSearch services, casting services, etc.
      • GeoPortal can be used to register and search services
    • Christine offered to give a demo of a "vanilla" GeoPortal server
      • This can be a topic of next month's telecon.
    • Christine will coordinate with Hook and Brian to produce an interesting demo
  • What is the timeline for the work?
    • ESRI is flexible on the timeline (response was to have work completed within one year)
  • What are the success criteria?

ESRI GeoPortal Source: [1]

ESIP 2012 Winter session planning

  • What are the Discovery Cluster topics?
    • One topic may be a recap of the charrette, joint breakout of discovery and ESC
    • Basic planning meeting, to plan goals for the next six months
      • Discuss plans for moving forward on the testbed
    • Workshop/breakout for GeoPortal demo or progress report
    • Need titles, main speakers, short abstract by next week for scheduling a winter meeting session
  • Proposed Sessions
    • a face-to-face meeting for wrapping up DCPs
      • New DCPs
        • DCP for error handling not discussed (but it is implied for OpenSearch to use HTTP error codes)
    • Casting demos
      • The theme is collaboration, how can casting/discovery conventions support collaboration
      • Ruth will be able to show next step beyond July demo (aggregating casts from distributed sources, making available to portal using OpenSearch)
      • Need to focus on demos/use cases that align with collaboration theme
    • Part of planning session: What are the implications for discovery conventions in the ESC?
      • How do we move forward on a more collaborative discovery cluster?
      • How can the discovery services meet the requirements of the ESC? (joint-session with ESC)
  • Winter meeting is shorter, so not as much time for demos/workshops
  • The ESRI demo/participation in Winter Meeting will be coordinated by the Discovery cluster
  • ACTION ITEM: Submit the abstracts for the Winter Meeting sessions

DCP-3

Discovery_Change_Proposal-3

  • Is the Discovery cluster defining the "types" that are allowable?
    • the convention should be totally open, no constraints on what values are used
  • Using plurals to differentiate collections of data and services vs. individual services
    • use "serviceCast" and "collectionCast" instead of "collections" and "services"
  • Should differentiate between data available from FTP and data offered through OPeNDAP
  • Anyone can add examples to the wiki
  • What about structured metadata file?
    • What's the metadata format (ISO would be an example)?
  • Add example for OpenSearch Description Document (has its own mime/type)