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* Phone number: 1-866-509-1626 | * Phone number: 1-866-509-1626 | ||
** Meeting Code: 3851033# | ** Meeting Code: 3851033# | ||
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+ | == Logistics == | ||
+ | |||
+ | * So far, have been using a NASA MeetMe number. Next telecon will need to switch to ESIP's Webex number. | ||
== ESIP 2011 Summer Meeting - Discovery Session planning == | == ESIP 2011 Summer Meeting - Discovery Session planning == | ||
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**** ServiceCasting: Brian Wilson | **** ServiceCasting: Brian Wilson | ||
**** Collection Casting: Ruth Duer | **** Collection Casting: Ruth Duer | ||
− | **** Services/Solr: Hook Hua | + | **** Services/Solr/Depoyment: Hook Hua |
** Showcase of various clients (e.g. ServiceCasting or DataCasting) | ** Showcase of various clients (e.g. ServiceCasting or DataCasting) | ||
*** more like outreach. demonstrate impact of cluster | *** more like outreach. demonstrate impact of cluster | ||
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* Interoperability | * Interoperability | ||
+ | ** Want to make sure that both service and client implementations adhere to the specification to ensure interoperability. | ||
* Any plans for existing and new implementations of Discovery service providers to follow the DCP-1 specification? | * Any plans for existing and new implementations of Discovery service providers to follow the DCP-1 specification? | ||
− | ** ECHO | + | ** ECHO (Matt) planning to update in next couple of months |
− | ** NSIDC | + | ** NSIDC (Ruth) planning to update in next iterations |
− | ** GES DISC | + | ** GES DISC (Richard) to assessment service updates |
− | ** WSNEWS | + | ** WSNEWS (Hook) planning to update in next couple of months |
− | ** check | + | ** check with Brian on ServiceCasting. |
== Next DCP Ideas == | == Next DCP Ideas == | ||
* Which ideas to formalize next? | * Which ideas to formalize next? | ||
− | * Ruth | + | * Need motivators first to draft up specification documents and then handoff to facilitator for going through the DCP process. |
+ | * New incubator ideas | ||
+ | ** Ruth wants to propose OpenSearch for Services. Essentially using OpenSearch as ServiceCasting. | ||
+ | *** Using same OpenSearch Request interface for DataCasting and ServiceCasting. | ||
*** need to post information on this on wiki. | *** need to post information on this on wiki. | ||
− | * | + | ** Hook wants to propose a JSON response format for the Discovery specs |
− | * | + | *** should help to (1) increase development productivity and (2) increase efficiency of response--especially for non-pagination responses |
− | * Some ideas | + | * Some existing ideas |
** Specific extensions to Discovery Atom Response format for Granule-level, Collection-level, and Service responses. Simply builds upon DCP-1. | ** Specific extensions to Discovery Atom Response format for Granule-level, Collection-level, and Service responses. Simply builds upon DCP-1. | ||
− | ** Discovery RSS Response Format | + | ** Discovery RSS Response Format |
− | ** OpenSearch Request Format. adopt OGC OpenSearch spec | + | ** OpenSearch Request Format. adopt OGC OpenSearch spec. |
− | ** ServiceCasting Request Format | + | ** ServiceCasting Request Format |
− | ** DataCasting Request Format | + | ** DataCasting Request Format |
− | ** Mashup conventions | + | ** Mashup conventions |
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** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/CommonQueryParameters Apache SOLR Request format] | ** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/CommonQueryParameters Apache SOLR Request format] | ||
** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/QueryResponseWriter Apache SOLR Response format] | ** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/QueryResponseWriter Apache SOLR Response format] | ||
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* What use(s) the Discovery cluster might be able to think of proposing. See [[Testbed]]. | * What use(s) the Discovery cluster might be able to think of proposing. See [[Testbed]]. | ||
+ | * If we have applications that are portable, can put on the testbed. | ||
+ | ** e.g. drop down portable OpenSearch server | ||
+ | * Want to test server implementation on the testbed. | ||
+ | * Want to test clients. | ||
+ | * Products and Services [http://wiki.esipfed.org/images/a/aa/Pstestbed11rev.pdf|developing proposal] for test bed activities. some funding available. | ||
+ | ** Discovery cluster could also contribute to the testbed proposal. Hook to write up addition and email Ken. | ||
+ | * testbed could also be used to test out new reference implementations of DCP specifications. | ||
+ | ** allows for clients to test interoperability and compliance. | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Next telecons == | ||
+ | |||
+ | * May telecon | ||
+ | ** Need to reschedule from May 10 to some other dates. Conflicts with the GES DISC UWG Meeting. | ||
+ | ** Discovery RSS Response Format | ||
+ | *** Cover for the two groups of users | ||
+ | **** With vested interest: direct interest in DataCasting service. | ||
+ | **** Without vested interest: interested in implications across other Discovery services. | ||
+ | ** Ask [http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/organization/staff/gpercivall George Percivall] to have someone attend the June telecon telecon to go through the OGC OpenSearch spec | ||
+ | * June 14th telecon | ||
+ | ** Go over the OGC OpenSearch spec | ||
+ | |||
== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
− | *Chris Lynnes | + | * Chris Lynnes |
− | *Ken Keiser | + | * Hook Hua |
− | *James Gallagher | + | * Ken Keiser |
− | *Sean McCleese | + | * James Gallagher |
− | *Ruth Duerr | + | * Sean McCleese |
− | *Bob Downs | + | * Ruth Duerr |
− | *Richard Strub | + | * Bob Downs |
− | *Steve Aulenbach | + | * Richard Strub |
− | *Matt Cechini | + | * Steve Aulenbach |
+ | * Matt Cechini |
Latest revision as of 15:59, April 12, 2011
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- Tuesday, April 12, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT
- Phone number: 1-866-509-1626
- Meeting Code: 3851033#
Logistics
- So far, have been using a NASA MeetMe number. Next telecon will need to switch to ESIP's Webex number.
ESIP 2011 Summer Meeting - Discovery Session planning
- Schedule posted: Jluly 12-13 Summer Meeting, Santa Fe, NM
- Need to add slot for Discovery
- Interest in slot for Wednesday July_13,_2011 (Teacher Workshop, Technical Workshops, Plenary, Poster Session)
- Discovery session topic ideas
- Overview of Discovery
- Get everyone up to speed with discovery services.
- Designated technical consultants for each area:
- OpenSearch: Chris Lyness
- ServiceCasting: Brian Wilson
- Collection Casting: Ruth Duer
- Services/Solr/Depoyment: Hook Hua
- Showcase of various clients (e.g. ServiceCasting or DataCasting)
- more like outreach. demonstrate impact of cluster
- 10-15 minutes each.
- GES DISC (Mirador, Simple Subset Wizrd, and Community Based Giovanni)
- NSIDC can also show interface
- JPL DataCasting
- ECHO? (latest multi-format client)
- Working Technical Session
- Many folks have mixed feelings on need of technical session.
- Overview of Discovery
Discovery Webinar to Help Infusion?
- To help new infusion cases of Discovery services.
- Example case: EPA (Bill Sonntag)
- Possible title: "Getting started with ESIP Discovery Services"
- intended mainly for the techies.
- could even show again at ESIP.
- Contribute slide content
- new wiki page Discovery Webinar Materials created to post content to.
- Ruth has some high-level slides for setting the ground work.
- To be effective, need to cover service providers and clients.
- Cover services for OpenSearch, ServiceCasting, and DataCasting
- Show some existing applications.
- Show power of mashups.
- Ruth at beginning stages of using DataCasting to feed aggregator for web portal
Follow up on DCP-1
- Interoperability
- Want to make sure that both service and client implementations adhere to the specification to ensure interoperability.
- Any plans for existing and new implementations of Discovery service providers to follow the DCP-1 specification?
- ECHO (Matt) planning to update in next couple of months
- NSIDC (Ruth) planning to update in next iterations
- GES DISC (Richard) to assessment service updates
- WSNEWS (Hook) planning to update in next couple of months
- check with Brian on ServiceCasting.
Next DCP Ideas
- Which ideas to formalize next?
- Need motivators first to draft up specification documents and then handoff to facilitator for going through the DCP process.
- New incubator ideas
- Ruth wants to propose OpenSearch for Services. Essentially using OpenSearch as ServiceCasting.
- Using same OpenSearch Request interface for DataCasting and ServiceCasting.
- need to post information on this on wiki.
- Hook wants to propose a JSON response format for the Discovery specs
- should help to (1) increase development productivity and (2) increase efficiency of response--especially for non-pagination responses
- Ruth wants to propose OpenSearch for Services. Essentially using OpenSearch as ServiceCasting.
- Some existing ideas
- Specific extensions to Discovery Atom Response format for Granule-level, Collection-level, and Service responses. Simply builds upon DCP-1.
- Discovery RSS Response Format
- OpenSearch Request Format. adopt OGC OpenSearch spec.
- ServiceCasting Request Format
- DataCasting Request Format
- Mashup conventions
- Apache SOLR Request format
- Apache SOLR Response format
- Apache Nutch Opensearch RSS response format
- Custom Elements
Product & Services Testbed
- What use(s) the Discovery cluster might be able to think of proposing. See Testbed.
- If we have applications that are portable, can put on the testbed.
- e.g. drop down portable OpenSearch server
- Want to test server implementation on the testbed.
- Want to test clients.
- Products and Services proposal for test bed activities. some funding available.
- Discovery cluster could also contribute to the testbed proposal. Hook to write up addition and email Ken.
- testbed could also be used to test out new reference implementations of DCP specifications.
- allows for clients to test interoperability and compliance.
Next telecons
- May telecon
- Need to reschedule from May 10 to some other dates. Conflicts with the GES DISC UWG Meeting.
- Discovery RSS Response Format
- Cover for the two groups of users
- With vested interest: direct interest in DataCasting service.
- Without vested interest: interested in implications across other Discovery services.
- Cover for the two groups of users
- Ask George Percivall to have someone attend the June telecon telecon to go through the OGC OpenSearch spec
- June 14th telecon
- Go over the OGC OpenSearch spec
Attendees
- Chris Lynnes
- Hook Hua
- Ken Keiser
- James Gallagher
- Sean McCleese
- Ruth Duerr
- Bob Downs
- Richard Strub
- Steve Aulenbach
- Matt Cechini