Difference between revisions of "Cloud Telecons 2"
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1. Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc). | 1. Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc). | ||
| − | a. Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing | + | a. Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing |
| − | b. Brian: Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve | + | b. Brian: Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve |
| − | c. Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org | + | c. Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org |
To register in the email list, use the following link: | To register in the email list, use the following link: | ||
http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud | http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud | ||
Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe | Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe | ||
| − | d. Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month | + | d. Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month |
| − | Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder) | + | Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder) |
| − | e. Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve | + | e. Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve |
2. Winter meeting cloud session plan | 2. Winter meeting cloud session plan | ||
| − | a. P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines. | + | a. P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines. |
| − | b. Sessions: 2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers, | + | b. Sessions: 2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers, |
Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker | Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker | ||
| − | c. Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers | + | c. Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers |
Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general | Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general | ||
Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL | Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL | ||
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3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed | 3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed | ||
| − | a. Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do. | + | a. Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do. |
| − | b. Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing? | + | b. Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing? |
| − | c. Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it? | + | c. Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it? |
| − | d. Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed | + | d. Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed |
| − | e. Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks | + | e. Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks |
| − | f. Using the cloud , where we will be going | + | f. Using the cloud , where we will be going |
| − | g. Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members | + | g. Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members |
4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies. | 4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies. | ||
| − | a. 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products. | + | a. 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products. |
| − | b. Nov monthly meeting | + | b. Nov monthly meeting |
Rick will set up a presentation | Rick will set up a presentation | ||
| − | c. Topics of the presentations based on audiences | + | c. Topics of the presentations based on audiences |
What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities; | What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities; | ||
e.g., Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session | e.g., Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session | ||
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5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP. | 5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP. | ||
| − | a. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing | + | a. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing |
| − | b. After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists | + | b. After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists |
c. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon | c. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon | ||
d. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources | d. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources | ||
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6. Activities outside biannual meeting. | 6. Activities outside biannual meeting. | ||
| − | a. data.gov type of services. | + | a. data.gov type of services. |
7. Other relevant topics | 7. Other relevant topics | ||
Revision as of 16:21, October 24, 2011
Oct 24, 2011 ESIP cloud computing cluster Telecon
Participants: Carol, Erin Robinson, Ken Keiser, Rick Martin, Thomas Huang, Long Pham, Brian Nim, Chritine, Brand Niemann, Hook, Phil Yang, Qunying Huang, Robert Casey Co-Chair: Thomas Huang, Rick Martin, Phil Yang Supportor: Qunying Huang Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-877-668-4493 Attendee access code: 23133897#
Agenda
1. Cluster objective, communication recap.(website, email list, etc) 2. Winter meeting cloud session plan.(3 put in) 3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed 4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies. 5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP. 6. Activities outside biannual meeting. 7. Other relevant topics
Note:
1. Cluster objective, communication recap (website, email list, etc).
a. Wiki page: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Cloud_Computing
b. Brian: Add ESIP summer meeting link in the resources achieve
c. Email List: esip-cloud@lists.esipfed.org
To register in the email list, use the following link:
http://rtpnet.org/mailman/listinfo/esip-cloud
Phil will send out email to invite people to subscribe
d. Monthly meeting: the fourth Monday 1:00 PM -2:00PM of every month
Phil will send out the reminder (every 4-5 monthly reminder)
e. Add more resources, whitepaper to the resources achieve
2. Winter meeting cloud session plan
a. P&S Tasks and cloud computing, beyond cloud computing. not focused on cloud, could put this one before other two as requirements? "create on demand virtual machines for ESIP." where do we deploy the machines. b. Sessions: 2 in am, 2 in pm, different number of speakers,
Erin: An hour and half for each; speaker numbers are depending on how many minutes per speaker
c. Panel: NASA Cloud Computing, representatives from headquarter and centers Phil will invite Mike talk about NASA nebular technology in general
Thomas will be responsible for inviting speakers from JPL
3. ESIP Cloud Computing Testbed a. Great interest from other clusters to have a testbed, several companies are contacted and we hope to have an outline, and presentation about what could this be and how we do. b. Dec.19 (another call): do doodle by nov; defining goal, boundary, for commercial vendors, free would be great for ESIP, what vendors are providing? c. Emails discuss what should be included; assess use case for the testbed, what we want to get out of it? d. Evaluation: what the commercial services are provided for testbed e. Cloud as a test, whether it is suitable for supporting different talks f. Using the cloud , where we will be going g. Ken: compare the capabilities of different cloud vendors would be beneficial for the members
4. Webinar cloud presentations by companies.
a. 30 minutes for presentations from vendors talking about their accomplishments; Introduce their technologies, products. b. Nov monthly meeting Rick will set up a presentation c. Topics of the presentations based on audiences
What do we think, what we want to hear, e.g., developing or applications communities; e.g., Amazon three sessions structure: 1) Decision-making, 2) Architecture,3) Solution session What the real/true costs for, processing I/O, storage? JPL : Big data in the cloud computing
5. A Cloud computing testbed for ESIP.
a. Identify some use cases: Start from the current activities what they wish from the cloud computing b. After obtaining email list, we can send out the email to ESIP members to fill in the wish lists
c. Verify the requirements of the testbed activities for cloud computing, check how far we can go on the next telecon d. Trial not for production, start out with free, looking at a number of providers to get free test resources e. Deploy your own, have many options so we won't be locked in, alert our potential users about the locked in problem, JPL is doing that with several vendors but having an internal one for itself. f. Provide information about when using different platforms for different types of applications in terms of price, computing capacity, etc. Government data may need security so to alert potential users. g. Summarize the discussion, and talk again next monthly meeting
6. Activities outside biannual meeting.
a. data.gov type of services.
7. Other relevant topics
