Discovery Telecon 2011-11-08

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• Tuesday, November 8, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT
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Action Items

• Hook: Send out a Doodle poll to coordinate testbed requirements telecon
• Chris, Brian, Hook, Ruth: Send pressure points to Carol and Erin

Attendees

• Chris Lynnes
• Curt Tilmes
• Eric Rozell
• Hook Hua
• Carol Meyer
• Ken Keiser
• Christine White
• Jeff Mcwhirter
• Ruth Duerr
• Brian Wilson

Agenda

1. GeoPortal presentation from Christine White
2. Debrief of EarthCube charette
3. Status of Winter Session planning
4. Next Steps for DCP-3

Notes

GeoPortal presentation from Christine White

• Demo of other organizations that have implemented the Geoportal
• Is typically customized for each organizations
• Some Organizations
  • Missouri
  • NOAA (NCDC)
  • EPA
  • NOAA (Interagency Working Group)
  • Lombardia
  • Abu Dhabi (localization capabilities)
  • Internat'l Neuroinformatics Coordinating Facility
• geoportal.sourceforge.net (open source disribution of Geoportal)
  • Apache license
• Out of the box functionality
  • Roles: anonymous (search), publishers (contribute services), administrators (reviews publishers contributions)
  • Getting "stuff" into the Geoportal
    • Create metadata manually (out of the box, DC, ISO 19115, other customizable metadata editors)
    • Upload metadata file
    • Register resource on network (put a link to URL, ArcGIS, OAI, THREDDS, etc.)
  • Can you add additional types, such as OpenSearch?
    • OpenSearch falls under the URL Protocol Type
  • Can you differentiate the URL Protocols, e.g., DataCasting, ServiceCasting protocols
    • Would likely require changes to the back-end.
  • What about THREDDS?
    • Getting NCIC metadata from the OPeNDAP endpoint
  • The Federated Search list allows the user to configure the sources used
  • You can also decide how often the Geoportal requests updates from service metadata
  • You can only select up to five sources for federated search
    • Limited for performance reasons with the Geoportal interface
  • Can you expose the query to Geoportal as OpenSearch?
  • The purpose of DataCasting and ServiceCasting is to avoid registration
• What is the role of a Geoportal testbed for the Discovery cluster?
• DataCasting and ServiceCasting are seeking aggregators for there casts.
  • Looking to "federate out" the capabilities with casting specs, not seeking a single registry
• Relies on aggregators to read the metadata, rather than filling out forms for metadata
  • Christine sees the need for OpenSearch based on this aggregator idea
• Wrap-up for demo
  • Can we set up another telecon for defining requirements of testbeds?
  • The main point is, can OpenSearch casting specs fit in the Geoportal.
  • Hook will set up a Doodle poll for Geoportal drill-down and requirements definition for testbed.
    • We should revisit the RFP for the testbed in this meeting

Debrief of EarthCube charette

• Multiple ESIP attendees
• Process was wide open to start, with capabilities defined
• A full-day spent on barriers to implementing EarthCube capabilities
• NSF did not discuss how it would like to leverage the things it already funds (NEON, GEON, DataONE, IRIS, etc.)
• Those with large NSF positions will likely be the ones granted the EAGER grants
• Significant amount of openness of collaboration
• ESIP got a lot of positive "play", from members rather than the core committees
• ESIP has been invited to participate on EAGER proposals
• Likely to see the large systems argue that EarthCube should be built off of their existing systems
• NSF likely to fund 5 or 6 EAGER grants
• Some groups planning on stringing proposals together
• Tim Killeen will be speaking at winter meeting, likely to leave NSF, no guarantee EarthCube will continue after Tim Killeen is gone
• Are the EAGER grants part of a "down-select" for future EarthCube proposals?
• Other programs outside of EarthCube will probably be used to support EarthCube
• Any feedback or actions for Discovery/ESC from the whitepaper submissions?
  • Next step is to try to get on with EAGER proposal teams
  • Alternatively, try to assemble a Discovery/ESC team that could be plugged into teams closer to NSF
• Is the outcome of the charrette available yet?
  • Does not look like the two-pagers are posted yet
  • The capabilities list is posted
• ESIP is trying to avoid competing with its members
  • The best thing for ESIP to do is to enable sharing/exchange of knowledge and technology towards a solution
  • ESIP will not be building something like EarthCube, rather bringing together members to build it
• The charrettes seemed to be mostly self-serving

Status of Winter Session planning

• Put out the survey for Winter Sessions
• Two clear topics stood out
  • Interoperability for OGC services
  • Interoperability for OpenSearch in various types of casting
    • e.g., forming relations between casts
• Will also probably need a planning session
  • Two sessions allotted for planning and breakout (1.5 hr ea)
  • Should we swap breakout and planning session?
    • It could probably work either way
• There is still room for more slots
• Schedule Links:
  • http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/January_4,_2012
  • http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/January_5,_2012
  • http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/January_6,_2012
• Conflicts
  • Data Preservation
  • ESC
  • Semantic Web demos
• Brian is willing to run a session on OpenSearch interoperability for types of casting
• Should the ESC charrette be updated to plenary status?
• Suggestion:
  • swap breakout and planning session
  • in a less formal capacity, meet to continue breakout work during business meeting
• Wait on changes for pressure points for 24 hours (may be axing a plenary)
• Send potential changes and pressure points to Erin