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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
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* Anyone: Add your OpenSearch service to the list of servers!
 +
* Chris: Put out poll for DCP-4 at the end of the meeting
 +
* Ruth: Write up NSIDCs solution for valid parameter values for DCP-5
 +
* More detailed planning for the hack-a-thon (logistics/follow-up/etc.)
 +
* Think about offering a VM that people can use to deploy Discovery technologies
  
 
== Previous Action Items ==
 
== Previous Action Items ==
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* Hook will continue to tweak DCP-7 before voting
 
* Hook will continue to tweak DCP-7 before voting
  
== Planning for the ESIP Meeting ==
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== Planning for the ESIP Summer Meeting ==
   
+
 
 +
* Not necessarily bad for Discovery to have limited sessions
 +
** We don't need as much planning,better to integrate across sessions
 +
* Need to collect participants at the Discovery cluster meetings
 +
* Try to gauge what people are interested in through polling
 +
* Get the code written during the hack-a-thon to become "community property"
 +
** Could use GitHub
 +
** Have slides showing how to checkout/checkin code
 +
 
 +
=== Brokering and Beyond - A glimpse at the Future of Global Data Sharing ===
 +
* Related to Discovery (overview of the concept of brokering)
 +
* More closely aligned with ESC
 +
 
 +
=== Discovery Hack-a-Thon ===
 +
* Done a lot of work deploying services and working on standards
 +
* Last "missing link" is how to enable more clients to actually use services
 +
* Presenting a few "low-hanging fruit" ways of accessing services
 +
** Shell script w/ wget/curl
 +
** XSLT
 +
* Idea is to show people how easy it is to access discovery services
 +
* Ruth: Could it also be about the server-side? What about: "This is all you have to do to service-cast your data"
 +
* Would also include time for the testbed.
 +
** Want people tinkering with the testbed
 +
* Need to have mentors / teachers for each area
 +
** Should there be a Perl area, Python area, CSS/XSLT, etc.
 +
* Designate some points of contact for after the session
 +
* Put together a resources page for each "dialect" of the hack-a-thon
 +
** Also can throw together a presentation for each
 +
** Ideally, people would be able to bring something home with them
 +
* Ruth could mentor for NSIDC's services / casting tools (at the simple level)
 +
* Email list if you have an OpenSearch service you want to develop clients for
 +
* Thomas could mentor Python
 +
* Some would want to see more "enterprise-level" clients, like Java
 +
* Could give a Groovy example for Java developers
 +
* Best if there were multiple services to test clients on
 +
** Revisit / update the list of OpenSearch services
 +
 
 +
=== Metadata Casting for Data, Services, & Events/Topics ===
 +
 
 +
* Talking about casting standards
 +
 
 +
=== Open Source Software evaluation - ESRI's Geoportal Usability Test ===
 +
 
 +
* Some discussion of OpenSearch when reporting usability
 +
 
 +
=== Discovery Planning Session - Need to be added? ===
 +
 
 +
* Can this be merged with Brian's Metadata Casting?
 +
* Could do a planning meeting on a telecon
 +
* A lot of the things we are doing for Discovery are overlapping with ESC
 +
 
 +
 
 +
=== ESIP Testbed: Encouraging Technology Innovation for Earth Science ===
 +
 
 +
* There will be an update from ESRI on discovery testbed performance
 +
 
 
== Update on DCPs==
 
== Update on DCPs==
* DCP-4
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=== DCP-4 ===
* DCP-5
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* DCP-6
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* See [[Discovery Change Proposals]]
 +
* This was not merged with DCP-7/8
 +
* Chris will put out poll for this, action item noted
 +
 
 +
=== DCP-5 ===
 +
 
 +
* Is Ruth's group interested in writing DCP-5?
 +
** Ruth's not sure that someone is writing this up
 +
* Since there are no better ideas, Ruth will write up NSIDCs solution to this
 +
 
 +
=== DCP-6 ===
 +
 
 +
* This DCP only got 5 votes.
 +
* Chris could have sent out more nag messages
 +
 
 +
=== DCP-7 ===
 +
 
 +
* Hook says this is ready for vote
 +
* Hook will be posting the link to the poll
 +
* Polls should be posted on the cluster announcement page
 +
 
 +
=== DCP-8? ===
 +
 
 +
* Brian's generalization of the OPeNDAP links (DCP-4)
 +
* Not sure when this will be done
  
 
==Discovery Testbed==
 
==Discovery Testbed==
 +
 +
=== Amazon Testbed ===
 +
* Testbed might be available through Amazon
 +
* There isn't a specific way to deploying a testbed
 +
** Erin was happy to have ESRI be the guinea pigs for deploying a testbed
 +
* Will be setting up a vanilla GeoPortal on Amazon
 +
* Some outstanding questions:
 +
** How much does it cost?
 +
** How to give people access / logins?
 +
** ....
 +
 +
=== Contributing to GeoPortal ===
 +
 +
* The way to test use cases is to submit services to the GeoPortal
 +
* There were people interested in developing
 +
** Products and Services team suggested GitHub for SCM
 +
** Speak up soon if you don't like GitHub!
 +
** Procedure: Post changes to GitHub and ESRI will test this
 +
* Looking for people willing to test GeoPortal and report bugs / things they don't like
 +
* Looking for people willing to document
 +
* Send Christine your URLs to OpenSearch and data/service casts
 +
* GeoPortal has various roles
 +
** need to identify people to approve content
 +
** a technical PoC for Amazon problems
 +
 +
=== GeoPortal in Summer Meeting ===
 +
 +
* GeoPortal may be relevant to Chris Mattmann's open source sessions
 +
** reply to Chris's request for presentations
 +
* Talk to Steve Brody for information about the broker session
 +
* There may be a "GeoPortal corner" at the Discovery Hack-a-Thon
 +
** Dedicating 25 minutes may not be possible
 +
* ESRI can get a list of Discovery services from the same page being used for the Hack-a-Thon
  
 
== "Relax NG" Validator Service==
 
== "Relax NG" Validator Service==
 +
* Brian is not on the telecon, so this is being pushed to the next telecon

Latest revision as of 14:56, April 10, 2012

Discovery Telecon

Attendees

  • Chris Lynnes
  • Hook Hua
  • Christine White
  • Eric Rozell
  • Thomas Huang
  • Nga Chung
  • Ruth Duerr

Action Items

  • Anyone: Add your OpenSearch service to the list of servers!
  • Chris: Put out poll for DCP-4 at the end of the meeting
  • Ruth: Write up NSIDCs solution for valid parameter values for DCP-5
  • More detailed planning for the hack-a-thon (logistics/follow-up/etc.)
  • Think about offering a VM that people can use to deploy Discovery technologies

Previous Action Items

  • Chris or Hook will deprecate DCP-2 and DCP-3 on DCP page
  • Brian will work on generalized version of DCP-4 (Pedro will contribute examples for WxS)
  • Chris will send out Doodle poll for DCP-4
  • James will update examples for DCP-4 with details and additional examples (also include all the different OPeNDAP MIME types) (also, try to use real links) (also put an example with a "length" attribute)
  • All review DCP-6 if interested (only a few hours left!)
  • Hook will continue to tweak DCP-7 before voting

Planning for the ESIP Summer Meeting

  • Not necessarily bad for Discovery to have limited sessions
    • We don't need as much planning,better to integrate across sessions
  • Need to collect participants at the Discovery cluster meetings
  • Try to gauge what people are interested in through polling
  • Get the code written during the hack-a-thon to become "community property"
    • Could use GitHub
    • Have slides showing how to checkout/checkin code

Brokering and Beyond - A glimpse at the Future of Global Data Sharing

  • Related to Discovery (overview of the concept of brokering)
  • More closely aligned with ESC

Discovery Hack-a-Thon

  • Done a lot of work deploying services and working on standards
  • Last "missing link" is how to enable more clients to actually use services
  • Presenting a few "low-hanging fruit" ways of accessing services
    • Shell script w/ wget/curl
    • XSLT
  • Idea is to show people how easy it is to access discovery services
  • Ruth: Could it also be about the server-side? What about: "This is all you have to do to service-cast your data"
  • Would also include time for the testbed.
    • Want people tinkering with the testbed
  • Need to have mentors / teachers for each area
    • Should there be a Perl area, Python area, CSS/XSLT, etc.
  • Designate some points of contact for after the session
  • Put together a resources page for each "dialect" of the hack-a-thon
    • Also can throw together a presentation for each
    • Ideally, people would be able to bring something home with them
  • Ruth could mentor for NSIDC's services / casting tools (at the simple level)
  • Email list if you have an OpenSearch service you want to develop clients for
  • Thomas could mentor Python
  • Some would want to see more "enterprise-level" clients, like Java
  • Could give a Groovy example for Java developers
  • Best if there were multiple services to test clients on
    • Revisit / update the list of OpenSearch services

Metadata Casting for Data, Services, & Events/Topics

  • Talking about casting standards

Open Source Software evaluation - ESRI's Geoportal Usability Test

  • Some discussion of OpenSearch when reporting usability

Discovery Planning Session - Need to be added?

  • Can this be merged with Brian's Metadata Casting?
  • Could do a planning meeting on a telecon
  • A lot of the things we are doing for Discovery are overlapping with ESC


ESIP Testbed: Encouraging Technology Innovation for Earth Science

  • There will be an update from ESRI on discovery testbed performance

Update on DCPs

DCP-4

DCP-5

  • Is Ruth's group interested in writing DCP-5?
    • Ruth's not sure that someone is writing this up
  • Since there are no better ideas, Ruth will write up NSIDCs solution to this

DCP-6

  • This DCP only got 5 votes.
  • Chris could have sent out more nag messages

DCP-7

  • Hook says this is ready for vote
  • Hook will be posting the link to the poll
  • Polls should be posted on the cluster announcement page

DCP-8?

  • Brian's generalization of the OPeNDAP links (DCP-4)
  • Not sure when this will be done

Discovery Testbed

Amazon Testbed

  • Testbed might be available through Amazon
  • There isn't a specific way to deploying a testbed
    • Erin was happy to have ESRI be the guinea pigs for deploying a testbed
  • Will be setting up a vanilla GeoPortal on Amazon
  • Some outstanding questions:
    • How much does it cost?
    • How to give people access / logins?
    • ....

Contributing to GeoPortal

  • The way to test use cases is to submit services to the GeoPortal
  • There were people interested in developing
    • Products and Services team suggested GitHub for SCM
    • Speak up soon if you don't like GitHub!
    • Procedure: Post changes to GitHub and ESRI will test this
  • Looking for people willing to test GeoPortal and report bugs / things they don't like
  • Looking for people willing to document
  • Send Christine your URLs to OpenSearch and data/service casts
  • GeoPortal has various roles
    • need to identify people to approve content
    • a technical PoC for Amazon problems

GeoPortal in Summer Meeting

  • GeoPortal may be relevant to Chris Mattmann's open source sessions
    • reply to Chris's request for presentations
  • Talk to Steve Brody for information about the broker session
  • There may be a "GeoPortal corner" at the Discovery Hack-a-Thon
    • Dedicating 25 minutes may not be possible
  • ESRI can get a list of Discovery services from the same page being used for the Hack-a-Thon

"Relax NG" Validator Service

  • Brian is not on the telecon, so this is being pushed to the next telecon