Difference between revisions of "Sustainable Data Management/20200509 telcon notes"

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==Notes==
 
==Notes==
feedback from data stewardship group:
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feedback from data stewardship group: Nice idea, needs some scoping.
  
Nice idea, needs some scoping.
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* Use cases
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** Primary: someone suggests starting a new repo. asks: what do I need to do?
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** Primary: one of the 300+ domain repos asks, what dos it mean for me to be a repository in this community?
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** Secondary: NSF can use this doc to review proposals for repositories.
  
* Use case: someone suggests starting a new repo. asks: what do I need to do?
 
* use case: one of the 300+ domain repos asks, what dos it mean for me to be a repository in this community?
 
* use case: NSF can use this doc to review proposals for repositories.
 
  
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* We would not detail the defining services, products for any repo. Instead, offer a set of common features across all. guidelines for implementation.
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* can we guide funding-limited repos on what goals they might want to plan for.
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* differentiate from Core trust seal
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knowing that there are defining services, products for any repo: it would be useful to have a set of common featues across all. what are they
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TRUST Principles:  transparency (T), responsibility (R), user community (U), sustainability (S) and technology (T)
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similar to the FAIR principles (ie. high level).
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began(?) as RDA initiative (Philadelphia, WDS cert) - https://www.rd-alliance.org/ig-rdawds-certification-digital-repositories-rda-13th-plenary-meeting-0
  
how are these differentiated from Core trust seal? (not inventing that)
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Comment doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbRw1uf-W-BRMxjj8ZNZJHQTI-ggLjRWq8jiu4Oy6Yc/edit
can we guide $$-limited repos on what goals they might want to have/
 
  
  
Bob: paper on the trust principles, high level (no technical details). '''TO DO: URL, please'''
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one approach - organize guidelines around these facets, ask what do repos have to implement to enable that?
transparency (T), responsibility (R), user community (U), sustainability (S) and technology (T)
 
similar to the FAIR principles.
 
idea behind it: RDA initiative (Philadelphia, WDS cert) - https://www.rd-alliance.org/ig-rdawds-certification-digital-repositories-rda-13th-plenary-meeting-0
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbRw1uf-W-BRMxjj8ZNZJHQTI-ggLjRWq8jiu4Oy6Yc/edit
 
  
 
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possible format:
 
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* index? or  
one approach
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* checklist?  
pick one of these facets (e.t., trust).
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* for x see y
what do repos have to do to enable that?
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** examples
 
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*** for identifiers: point to a founding doc
what about an index? or checklist? guidelines for implementation
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*** data access: (our paper on tech interop) also something from NASA. when do you want to use an OGC service, when netcdf.
for x see y
 
 
 
identifiers: point to a founding doc
 
 
 
data access: (our paper on tech interop) also something from NASA. when do you want to use an OGC service, when netcdf.
 
  
 
does Core Trust Seal have any recommendations for implementation?  
 
does Core Trust Seal have any recommendations for implementation?  
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- Decide what repos aspects we want to cover, continue scoping
 
- Decide what repos aspects we want to cover, continue scoping
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- Decide on scope: probably earth/env science (not all research)
  
 
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== Action Items:==
Action Item:
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- find a place to assemble existing material (docs we would link to).  (zotero) Rebecca/Shelley
- assemble existing material (docs we would link to).  (zotero) Rebecca/Shelley
 
 
-- Core trust seal material:
 
-- Core trust seal material:
- start a google folder (margaret)
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- start a google folder (margaret)  
- introductory paras for shelley's draft (RUTH)
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-- adopt shelley's draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TIV8Q5-4uBhFhdsA3cPvndKrE2P9ZIKyGJ8XBo22ufk/edit?pli=1#heading=h.xxxz967ga2no
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-- introductory paras for shelley's draft (RUTH)
  
  
  
Chat log:  
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Chat log (might have some additional links):  
  
 
Megan Carter (to All):
 
Megan Carter (to All):

Revision as of 16:01, May 8, 2020

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Agenda

  1. Review notes and ideas from February
  2. 3 Slides for ESIP Collaboration Area Highlights

Goal: summarize our activities to the rest of the Federation, solicit ideas or members.


Attending

  • Megan Carter
  • Erin Antognoii (with NAL, Ag Commons)
  • Ruth Duerr
  • Corinna Gries
  • Shelley Stall
  • Rebecca Koskela
  • Margaret O'Brien (scribe)
  • Bob Downs
  • Philip Tarrant

Regrets

  • Cyndy Parr

Notes

feedback from data stewardship group: Nice idea, needs some scoping.

  • Use cases
    • Primary: someone suggests starting a new repo. asks: what do I need to do?
    • Primary: one of the 300+ domain repos asks, what dos it mean for me to be a repository in this community?
    • Secondary: NSF can use this doc to review proposals for repositories.


  • We would not detail the defining services, products for any repo. Instead, offer a set of common features across all. guidelines for implementation.
  • can we guide funding-limited repos on what goals they might want to plan for.
  • differentiate from Core trust seal

TRUST Principles: transparency (T), responsibility (R), user community (U), sustainability (S) and technology (T) similar to the FAIR principles (ie. high level). began(?) as RDA initiative (Philadelphia, WDS cert) - https://www.rd-alliance.org/ig-rdawds-certification-digital-repositories-rda-13th-plenary-meeting-0

Comment doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbRw1uf-W-BRMxjj8ZNZJHQTI-ggLjRWq8jiu4Oy6Yc/edit


one approach - organize guidelines around these facets, ask what do repos have to implement to enable that?

possible format:

  • index? or
  • checklist?
  • for x see y
    • examples
      • for identifiers: point to a founding doc
      • data access: (our paper on tech interop) also something from NASA. when do you want to use an OGC service, when netcdf.

does Core Trust Seal have any recommendations for implementation? not really, unless you are working on an application.

some suggestions that they tighten requirements, did not happen.

Goal should be: a repository is "CTS, TRUSTed FAIR OAIS"

Others working in this space:

- Decide what repos aspects we want to cover, continue scoping - Decide on scope: probably earth/env science (not all research)

Action Items:

- find a place to assemble existing material (docs we would link to). (zotero) Rebecca/Shelley -- Core trust seal material: - start a google folder (margaret) -- adopt shelley's draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TIV8Q5-4uBhFhdsA3cPvndKrE2P9ZIKyGJ8XBo22ufk/edit?pli=1#heading=h.xxxz967ga2no -- introductory paras for shelley's draft (RUTH)


Chat log (might have some additional links):

Megan Carter (to All): Nice to meet you, Erin.

1:04 PMErin Antognoli (to All): My email: Erin.Antognoli@usda.gov

1:14 PMMegan Carter (to All): http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20200410_telcon_notes

1:14 PMTo All: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Sustainable_Data_Management/20200410_telcon_notes

1:29 PMPhilip Tarrant (to All): Got to drop off. It was good to see everyone.

1:30 PMRebecca Koskela (to All): Bob - is this the RDA group? https://www.rd-alliance.org/ig-rdawds-certification-digital-repositories-rda-13th-plenary-meeting-0

1:36 PMShelley Stall (to All): Here's the white paper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbRw1uf-W-BRMxjj8ZNZJHQTI-ggLjRWq8jiu4Oy6Yc/edit?usp=sharing

1:36 PMShelley Stall (to All): for TRUST

1:42 PMRobert Downs (to All): Yes, that is the right group and the correct white paper

1:44 PMShelley Stall (to All): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TIV8Q5-4uBhFhdsA3cPvndKrE2P9ZIKyGJ8XBo22ufk/edit?usp=sharing

1:49 PMRebecca Koskela (to All): https://datatogether.org/

1:50 PMShelley Stall (to All): https://www.fairsfair.eu

1:53 PMRebecca Koskela (to All): and also this - same name but they don't reference each other datatogether300.jpg

Add https protocol to this: www.rd-alliance.org/system/files/datatogether300.jpg