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* Phone number: 1-866-509-1626
 
* Phone number: 1-866-509-1626
 
** Meeting Code: 3851033#
 
** Meeting Code: 3851033#
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== Logistics ==
 +
 +
* So far, have been using a NASA MeetMe number. Next telecon will need to switch to ESIP's Webex number.
  
 
== ESIP 2011 Summer Meeting - Discovery Session planning ==
 
== ESIP 2011 Summer Meeting - Discovery Session planning ==
  
 
* Schedule posted: [[Jluly 12-13 Summer Meeting, Santa Fe, NM]]
 
* Schedule posted: [[Jluly 12-13 Summer Meeting, Santa Fe, NM]]
−
* Need to add slot for Discovery
+
** Need to add slot for Discovery
−
* Dicovery session topic ideas
+
** Interest in slot for Wednesday [[July_13,_2011]] (Teacher Workshop, Technical Workshops, Plenary, Poster Session)
−
** poll?
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* Discovery session topic ideas
 +
** Overview of Discovery
 +
*** Get everyone up to speed with discovery services.
 +
*** Designated technical consultants for each area:
 +
**** OpenSearch: Chris Lyness
 +
**** ServiceCasting: Brian Wilson
 +
**** Collection Casting: Ruth Duer
 +
**** Services/Solr/Depoyment: Hook Hua
 +
** Showcase of various clients (e.g. ServiceCasting or DataCasting)
 +
*** more like outreach. demonstrate impact of cluster
 +
*** 10-15 minutes each.
 +
*** GES DISC (Mirador, Simple Subset Wizrd, and Community Based Giovanni)
 +
*** NSIDC can also show interface
 +
*** JPL DataCasting
 +
*** ECHO? (latest multi-format client)
 +
** Working Technical Session
 +
*** Many folks have mixed feelings on need of technical session.
  
 
== Discovery Webinar to Help Infusion? ==
 
== Discovery Webinar to Help Infusion? ==
  
 
* To help new infusion cases of Discovery services.
 
* To help new infusion cases of Discovery services.
−
* example case: EPA (Bill Sonntag)
+
* Example case: EPA (Bill Sonntag)
 +
* Possible title: "Getting started with ESIP Discovery Services"
 +
** intended mainly for the techies.
 +
** could even show again at ESIP.
 +
* Contribute slide content
 +
** new wiki page [[Discovery Webinar Materials]] created to post content to.
 +
** Ruth has some high-level slides for setting the ground work.
 +
* To be effective, need to cover service providers and clients.
 +
* Cover services for OpenSearch, ServiceCasting, and DataCasting
 +
* Show some existing applications.
 +
* Show power of mashups.
 +
** Ruth at beginning stages of using DataCasting to feed aggregator for web portal
  
 
== Follow up on DCP-1 ==
 
== Follow up on DCP-1 ==
  
 +
* Interoperability
 +
** Want to make sure that both service and client implementations adhere to the specification to ensure interoperability.
 
* Any plans for existing and new implementations of Discovery service providers to follow the DCP-1 specification?
 
* Any plans for existing and new implementations of Discovery service providers to follow the DCP-1 specification?
 +
** ECHO (Matt) planning to update in next couple of months
 +
** NSIDC (Ruth) planning to update in next iterations
 +
** GES DISC (Richard) to assessment service updates
 +
** WSNEWS (Hook) planning to update in next couple of months
 +
** check with Brian on ServiceCasting.
  
 
== Next DCP Ideas ==
 
== Next DCP Ideas ==
  
 
* Which ideas to formalize next?
 
* Which ideas to formalize next?
−
* We also need facilitators.
+
* Need motivators first to draft up specification documents and then handoff to facilitator for going through the DCP process.
−
* Some ideas incubating
+
* New incubator ideas
 +
** Ruth wants to propose OpenSearch for Services. Essentially using OpenSearch as ServiceCasting.
 +
*** Using same OpenSearch Request interface for DataCasting and ServiceCasting.
 +
*** need to post information on this on wiki.
 +
** Hook wants to propose a JSON response format for the Discovery specs
 +
*** should help to (1) increase development productivity and (2) increase efficiency of response--especially for non-pagination responses
 +
* Some existing ideas
 
** Specific extensions to Discovery Atom Response format for Granule-level, Collection-level, and Service responses. Simply builds upon DCP-1.
 
** Specific extensions to Discovery Atom Response format for Granule-level, Collection-level, and Service responses. Simply builds upon DCP-1.
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** Discovery RSS Response Format?
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** Discovery RSS Response Format
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** OpenSearch Request Format. adopt OGC OpenSearch spec?
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** OpenSearch Request Format. adopt OGC OpenSearch spec.
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** ServiceCasting Request Format?
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** ServiceCasting Request Format
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** DataCasting Request Format?
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** DataCasting Request Format
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** Mashup conventions?
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** Mashup conventions
 
** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/CommonQueryParameters Apache SOLR Request format]
 
** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/CommonQueryParameters Apache SOLR Request format]
 
** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/QueryResponseWriter Apache SOLR Response format]
 
** [http://wiki.apache.org/solr/QueryResponseWriter Apache SOLR Response format]
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== Product & Services Testbed ==
 
== Product & Services Testbed ==
  
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* What use(s) the Discovery cluster might be able to think of proposing.
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* What use(s) the Discovery cluster might be able to think of proposing. See [[Testbed]].
 +
* If we have applications that are portable, can put on the testbed.
 +
** e.g. drop down portable OpenSearch server
 +
* Want to test server implementation on the testbed.
 +
* Want to test clients.
 +
* Products and Services [http://wiki.esipfed.org/images/a/aa/Pstestbed11rev.pdf|developing proposal] for test bed activities. some funding available.
 +
** Discovery cluster could also contribute to the testbed proposal. Hook to write up addition and email Ken.
 +
* testbed could also be used to test out new reference implementations of DCP specifications.
 +
** allows for clients to test interoperability and compliance.
 +
 
 +
== Next telecons ==
 +
 
 +
* May telecon
 +
** Need to reschedule from May 10 to some other dates. Conflicts with the GES DISC UWG Meeting.
 +
** Discovery RSS Response Format
 +
*** Cover for the two groups of users
 +
**** With vested interest: direct interest in DataCasting service.
 +
**** Without vested interest: interested in implications across other Discovery services.
 +
** Ask [http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/organization/staff/gpercivall George Percivall] to have someone attend the June telecon telecon to go through the OGC OpenSearch spec
 +
* June 14th telecon
 +
** Go over the OGC OpenSearch spec
 +
 
  
 
== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
 +
* Chris Lynnes
 +
* Hook Hua
 +
* Ken Keiser
 +
* James Gallagher
 +
* Sean McCleese
 +
* Ruth Duerr
 +
* Bob Downs
 +
* Richard Strub
 +
* Steve Aulenbach
 +
* Matt Cechini

Latest revision as of 15:59, April 12, 2011

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  • Tuesday, April 12, 2011. 4:00pm ET / 1:00pm PT
  • Phone number: 1-866-509-1626
    • Meeting Code: 3851033#

Logistics

  • So far, have been using a NASA MeetMe number. Next telecon will need to switch to ESIP's Webex number.

ESIP 2011 Summer Meeting - Discovery Session planning

  • Schedule posted: Jluly 12-13 Summer Meeting, Santa Fe, NM
    • Need to add slot for Discovery
    • Interest in slot for Wednesday July_13,_2011 (Teacher Workshop, Technical Workshops, Plenary, Poster Session)
  • Discovery session topic ideas
    • Overview of Discovery
      • Get everyone up to speed with discovery services.
      • Designated technical consultants for each area:
        • OpenSearch: Chris Lyness
        • ServiceCasting: Brian Wilson
        • Collection Casting: Ruth Duer
        • Services/Solr/Depoyment: Hook Hua
    • Showcase of various clients (e.g. ServiceCasting or DataCasting)
      • more like outreach. demonstrate impact of cluster
      • 10-15 minutes each.
      • GES DISC (Mirador, Simple Subset Wizrd, and Community Based Giovanni)
      • NSIDC can also show interface
      • JPL DataCasting
      • ECHO? (latest multi-format client)
    • Working Technical Session
      • Many folks have mixed feelings on need of technical session.

Discovery Webinar to Help Infusion?

  • To help new infusion cases of Discovery services.
  • Example case: EPA (Bill Sonntag)
  • Possible title: "Getting started with ESIP Discovery Services"
    • intended mainly for the techies.
    • could even show again at ESIP.
  • Contribute slide content
  • To be effective, need to cover service providers and clients.
  • Cover services for OpenSearch, ServiceCasting, and DataCasting
  • Show some existing applications.
  • Show power of mashups.
    • Ruth at beginning stages of using DataCasting to feed aggregator for web portal

Follow up on DCP-1

  • Interoperability
    • Want to make sure that both service and client implementations adhere to the specification to ensure interoperability.
  • Any plans for existing and new implementations of Discovery service providers to follow the DCP-1 specification?
    • ECHO (Matt) planning to update in next couple of months
    • NSIDC (Ruth) planning to update in next iterations
    • GES DISC (Richard) to assessment service updates
    • WSNEWS (Hook) planning to update in next couple of months
    • check with Brian on ServiceCasting.

Next DCP Ideas

  • Which ideas to formalize next?
  • Need motivators first to draft up specification documents and then handoff to facilitator for going through the DCP process.
  • New incubator ideas
    • Ruth wants to propose OpenSearch for Services. Essentially using OpenSearch as ServiceCasting.
      • Using same OpenSearch Request interface for DataCasting and ServiceCasting.
      • need to post information on this on wiki.
    • Hook wants to propose a JSON response format for the Discovery specs
      • should help to (1) increase development productivity and (2) increase efficiency of response--especially for non-pagination responses
  • Some existing ideas

Product & Services Testbed

  • What use(s) the Discovery cluster might be able to think of proposing. See Testbed.
  • If we have applications that are portable, can put on the testbed.
    • e.g. drop down portable OpenSearch server
  • Want to test server implementation on the testbed.
  • Want to test clients.
  • Products and Services proposal for test bed activities. some funding available.
    • Discovery cluster could also contribute to the testbed proposal. Hook to write up addition and email Ken.
  • testbed could also be used to test out new reference implementations of DCP specifications.
    • allows for clients to test interoperability and compliance.

Next telecons

  • May telecon
    • Need to reschedule from May 10 to some other dates. Conflicts with the GES DISC UWG Meeting.
    • Discovery RSS Response Format
      • Cover for the two groups of users
        • With vested interest: direct interest in DataCasting service.
        • Without vested interest: interested in implications across other Discovery services.
    • Ask George Percivall to have someone attend the June telecon telecon to go through the OGC OpenSearch spec
  • June 14th telecon
    • Go over the OGC OpenSearch spec


Attendees

  • Chris Lynnes
  • Hook Hua
  • Ken Keiser
  • James Gallagher
  • Sean McCleese
  • Ruth Duerr
  • Bob Downs
  • Richard Strub
  • Steve Aulenbach
  • Matt Cechini
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