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==JGregory(JG) / CTextor (CT): remarks to updates on June 12 from JG and answers from CT==
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:*'''JG:''' Thanks for your updates. I am not monitoring your wiki, so I'm depending on your emails to prompt me to look again. I think the debate is going well! If you send your email to the CF list the wiki might have a wider readership.
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::'''CT:''' will write an email to the CF list
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:*'''JG:''' I know that "burden" and "column" are common, but if you could get used to "content" it would have the advantage of consistency with other names. I agree that it might be misunderstood to mean the content integrated over the entire world, not per unit area, but this is also true of the existing stdnames which use "content". The units should clarify it, so it's not dangerously ambiguous! We would need some other phrase for the global total. So far no-one has asked for such a quantity. In existing names X_content where X is a material means kg m-2, and by analogy you could have number_content in m-2.
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::'''CT:''' ok, if this is the convention to be followed. anyway: so far, no variable has been constructed for content...
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:*'''JG:''' STP is a fairly standard abbreviation, but it is also listed in the CF stdname guidelines.
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::'''CT:''' sorry for not knowing.
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:*'''JG:''' Yes, I think we have avoided articles, because we haven't needed them, not on principle. However, prepositions do appear in some names.
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::'''CT:''' Yes!
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:*'''JG:''' Yes, if a species could appear in more than one medium, it should have in_air in_sea_water in_soil or whatever, to specify which.
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::'''CT:''' Yes!
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:*'''JG:''' in_air and in_atmosphere wouldn't be a clear distinction, because atmosphere is used in other names to refer to large-scale properties, not to a medium. I would suggest in_air, in_clear_air (outside clouds), in_cloudy_air, and in_cloud_water (with a _).
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::'''CT:''' This is how I wanted to use it. I hope it is clearer from the recent updates of the tables.  
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:*'''JG:''' in_troposphere is a bit different. I think this quantity is actually in_air, but within the troposphere! in_troposphere is more like a vertical coordinate (like a named surface) than a medium, I would say. But we could also regard it as a large-scale designation, like atmosphere, and put it at the start, thus: troposphere_mole_fraction_of_ozone_in_air_from_stratosphere. Is that correct?
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::'''CT:''' With in_troposphere I mean a large scale property, but in all phases, i.e. in clouds and air. explanation added to table. But do I understand correctly that large scale properties should be at the beginning of the variable names, and locally measurable or origin information at the end of variable?
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:*'''JG:''' I don't understand the construction _of_X_compartment. What does this mean?
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::'''CT:''' Changed in updated versions, hope it is clearer now.
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:*'''JG:''' Why is "loss" preferred to "destruction", which would parallel "production" more nearly?
 
::'''CT:''' Good point, I have changed it too "destruction"
 
 
 
--[[User:Christiane|Christiane]] 13 June 2006 (EDT)
 
  
 
==RanjeetSokhi(RS) / CTextor (CT): remarks on version June 12 from RS and answers from CT==
 
==RanjeetSokhi(RS) / CTextor (CT): remarks on version June 12 from RS and answers from CT==

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RanjeetSokhi(RS) / CTextor (CT): remarks on version June 12 from RS and answers from CT

  • RS: Table 2 - Nitric Oxide (NO) rather than Nitrogen Oxide
CT: I followed the IUPAC conventions here and changed it to nitrogen monooxide.
  • RS: Aerosols
you are missing PM10 (particles of aerodynamic size of 10um or less), similary PM2.5 and PM1
coarse fraction = PM10-PM2.5
fine fraction = PM2.5
ultrafine fraction PM0.1
accumulation mode particles = particles of size 0.1 to 1um
Aitken mode particles = particles of size 0.1-0.01um
nucleation mode particles = particles of size less than 0.01um
CT: I agree that these are missing, I have added them in the species list, but not in the 'proposed names section'. The philosophy of CF is to define names once they are really needed. The reason why I did not include them so far is that they are not commonly simulated in global models, but if needed these names can be included in order to be as broad as possible!

--Christiane Textor (Christiane) 13 June 2006 (EDT)